[gentoo-dev] zeroconf/avahi USE flag

[gentoo-dev] zeroconf/avahi USE flag

[Doug Goldstein]

Hey all,

A few ebuilds treat things differently with regard to this situation and
it really needs to get rectified.

net-misc/ntp
    zeroconf? ( || ( net-dns/avahi net-misc/mDNSResponder ) )

net-print/cups
    zeroconf? ( !avahi? ( net-misc/mDNSResponder ) )
    avahi? ( net-dns/avahi )

kde-base/kdelibs
    !avahi? ( !bindist? ( net-misc/mDNSResponder !kde-misc/kdnssd-avahi ) )
    avahi? ( kde-misc/kdnssd-avahi )


To name a few... the above will cause blockers for people depending on
their merge order if they have the following in their USE flags.

USE="zeroconf -avahi"


Maybe we should clean the whole thing up and do like net-misc/ntp does
it. Thoughts?

Re: [gentoo-dev] zeroconf/avahi USE flag

[Gilles Dartiguelongue]

Le mardi 04 novembre 2008 à 12:11 -0500, Doug Goldstein a écrit :
> Hey all,
> 
> A few ebuilds treat things differently with regard to this situation
> and
> it really needs to get rectified.
[snip]
> Maybe we should clean the whole thing up and do like net-misc/ntp does
> it. Thoughts?

since I'm lazy:

18:28 < EvaSDK> Cardoe: about zeroconf/avahi thing, avahi shouldn't have
		ever existed indeed
18:28 < EvaSDK> the thing is that some apps could use both avahi and
		howl but had different ways to enable them so one
		thought it would be smart to create avahi use flag,
		and it spread all over the tree while zeroconf was the
		right one to use
18:29 < Cardoe> EvaSDK: comment on the ML threads

in fact some even had the mdnsresponder/howl/avahi USE flags at the same
time iirc. A cleanup would indeed be a good idea imho.

Re: [gentoo-dev] zeroconf/avahi USE flag

[Daniel Pielmeier]

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Doug Goldstein schrieb am 04.11.2008 18:11:
> Hey all,
> 
> A few ebuilds treat things differently with regard to this situation and
> it really needs to get rectified.
> 
> net-misc/ntp
>     zeroconf? ( || ( net-dns/avahi net-misc/mDNSResponder ) )
> 
> net-print/cups
>     zeroconf? ( !avahi? ( net-misc/mDNSResponder ) )
>     avahi? ( net-dns/avahi )
> 
> kde-base/kdelibs
>     !avahi? ( !bindist? ( net-misc/mDNSResponder !kde-misc/kdnssd-avahi ) )
>     avahi? ( kde-misc/kdnssd-avahi )
> 
> 
> To name a few... the above will cause blockers for people depending on
> their merge order if they have the following in their USE flags.
> 
> USE="zeroconf -avahi"
> 
> 
> Maybe we should clean the whole thing up and do like net-misc/ntp does
> it. Thoughts?
> 
> 

There is also a bonjour use flag which should be considered.

pidgin-2.5.2.ebuild:	bonjour? ( net-dns/avahi )
bonjour use flag pulls in net-dns/avahi

squeezecenter-7.2.1.ebuild:	bonjour? ( net-misc/mDNSResponder )
bonjour use flag pulls in net-misc/mDNSResponder

vlc-0.9.5.ebuild:	$(use_enable avahi bonjour)
avahi use flag enables bonjour support in vlc. Maybe the avahi flag
should be replaced with zeroconf here too.

Regards,

Daniel


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Re: [gentoo-dev] zeroconf/avahi USE flag

[Doug Goldstein]

Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
> Doug Goldstein schrieb am 04.11.2008 18:11:
>   
>> Hey all,
>>
>> A few ebuilds treat things differently with regard to this situation and
>> it really needs to get rectified.
>>
>> net-misc/ntp
>>     zeroconf? ( || ( net-dns/avahi net-misc/mDNSResponder ) )
>>
>> net-print/cups
>>     zeroconf? ( !avahi? ( net-misc/mDNSResponder ) )
>>     avahi? ( net-dns/avahi )
>>
>> kde-base/kdelibs
>>     !avahi? ( !bindist? ( net-misc/mDNSResponder !kde-misc/kdnssd-avahi ) )
>>     avahi? ( kde-misc/kdnssd-avahi )
>>
>>
>> To name a few... the above will cause blockers for people depending on
>> their merge order if they have the following in their USE flags.
>>
>> USE="zeroconf -avahi"
>>
>>
>> Maybe we should clean the whole thing up and do like net-misc/ntp does
>> it. Thoughts?
>>
>>
>>     
>
> There is also a bonjour use flag which should be considered.
>
> pidgin-2.5.2.ebuild:	bonjour? ( net-dns/avahi )
> bonjour use flag pulls in net-dns/avahi
>
> squeezecenter-7.2.1.ebuild:	bonjour? ( net-misc/mDNSResponder )
> bonjour use flag pulls in net-misc/mDNSResponder
>
> vlc-0.9.5.ebuild:	$(use_enable avahi bonjour)
> avahi use flag enables bonjour support in vlc. Maybe the avahi flag
> should be replaced with zeroconf here too.
>
> Regards,
>
> Daniel
>
>   
bonjour is Apple specific branding for zeroconf. This is another case
that needs to be changed.

zeroconf/avahi/howl/bonjour/mdnsresponder all need to be condensed.

Re: [gentoo-dev] zeroconf/avahi USE flag

[Daniel Gryniewicz]

On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 15:44 -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote:

<snip>

> bonjour is Apple specific branding for zeroconf. This is another case
> that needs to be changed.
> 
> zeroconf/avahi/howl/bonjour/mdnsresponder all need to be condensed.
> 

I agree.  Let's just have zeroconf.

Daniel

Re: [gentoo-dev] zeroconf/avahi USE flag

[Rémi Cardona]

Daniel Gryniewicz a écrit :
> I agree.  Let's just have zeroconf.

+1, zeroconf is what it should be called, regardless of different
implementations (especially if they are compatible).

Cheers

-- 
Rémi Cardona
LRI, INRIA
remi.cardona@lri.fr
remi@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] zeroconf/avahi USE flag

[Daniel Pielmeier]

2008/11/4 Doug Goldstein <cardoe@gentoo.org>:
> bonjour is Apple specific branding for zeroconf. This is another case
> that needs to be changed.

I just came up with this as nobody mentioned it before :-)

> zeroconf/avahi/howl/bonjour/mdnsresponder all need to be condensed.

++ one flag for all implementations.

-- 
Regards,
Daniel

Re: [gentoo-dev] zeroconf/avahi USE flag

[Pacho Ramos]

Hello

I would know what finally occurred with:
http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org/msg31489.html

Seems that last comment was:
http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org/msg31502.html

and, after that, activity stopped

Is there any problem for having this "USE cleanup" done? 

Thanks a lot for the information :-)