From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mxmrp-0001f0-9Y for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:17:07 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A72B4E0549; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:17:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jolexa.net (jolexa.net [69.164.197.24]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0C6E0549 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:17:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jolexa.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4143C5B7A4 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:17:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jolexa.net Received: from jolexa.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jolexa.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8jl97+QI61ur for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:17:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by jolexa.net (Postfix, from userid 101) id E73935B7A9; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:17:02 +0000 (UTC) To: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.5.1 arrived in the tree Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:17:02 +0000 From: Jeremy Olexa In-Reply-To: <4AD4E951.8020606@avtomatika.com> References: <200910091957.09193.zzam@gentoo.org> <8b4c83ad0910100622u502a69bdy6a9aaca18304cd48@mail.gmail.com> <200910102230.07124.zzam@gentoo.org> <200910131823.39417.hwoarang@gentoo.org> <20091013181618.GA7940@linux1> <4AD4E951.8020606@avtomatika.com> Message-ID: <5e331a8457f750e9c6d159ffcd3a3508@jolexa.net> X-Sender: darkside@gentoo.org User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.3-stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 623e5a54-1f87-43cf-a98e-b9d9b67e7ab1 X-Archives-Hash: fae0f87420bf21a4676febc91e6ff7bf On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:55:45 +0200, Branko Badrljica wrote: > Main question is NOT whether it works for you, but whether it will brea= k > stuff on significant percent of other users. > It broke on my machine, for example, and it was quite disconcerting,=20 > since it was at quite inconvenient moment and I had note get to any=20 > shred of documentation about ANY kind of substantial behaviour change o= f > new openrc... This is an unreasonable expectation for ~arch. Matthias tested it himself= , had another person test it and then had a number of people say that there were no problems for them on this thread alone. There was no behavior change according to upstream, which suggested the method that Matthias to= ok with USE=3Doldnet (MKOLDNET?). I respect that every system might be different, did you file a bug with relevant info so that the docs can get updated for the people in your situation? We can't document information i= f people don't help. I guess what I am trying to say, is give Matthias a break here. He did more testing than most of us can do before we bump packages in ~arch. Progress will not be made if packages live in p.mask, this is proven with libtool-2, gcc, etc. -Jeremy