From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [140.105.134.102] (helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DiGZa-0008DV-3e for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:55:42 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j5EIs31b011766; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:54:03 GMT Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.205]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5EIp3io018680 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:51:04 GMT Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so1105495rne for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:51:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jDcH7TpfuC7+goKgko63dvnPRXDPj73lFHEpKoXBlyS1gcVKjtNKBE+gEfARwfCE2aUZPtBWQR8ANY2z/eY1I2Afi0YYNUu7Zb39Snr2s49/1B3TBRGLa89MxMAK3uqe9RUYdDEiGYJCKSTKs0lQyxAKS4sbI5k1kbub+SCGDYA= Received: by 10.38.24.21 with SMTP id 21mr1639663rnx; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.39.1.73 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5e0a35ef050614115154d05e08@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:51:44 -0600 From: Joshua Baergen To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] chriswhite herd(?) status update In-Reply-To: <1118774358.5973.14.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050615114928.15f8e51e@localhost> <20050614202446.2570f84c@thelair.ynet.sk> <1118774358.5973.14.camel@localhost> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by robin.gentoo.org id j5EIp3io018680 X-Archives-Salt: 89b3cf76-dec7-46e8-a52e-918992270d6f X-Archives-Hash: fa78dfc4f7ecee8ac72a67f51c81de17 On 6/14/05, Patrick Lauer wrote: > On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 20:24 +0200, Andrej Kacian wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:49:28 +0900 > > Chris White wrote: > > > > > on a minor note, I was thinking of maybe a somewhat small comprehensive list > > > of major problems and ways to solve them. I know we do have bugzilla, but > > > bugzilla is kind of full of noise (look at all them bugs!). Therefore, I > > > think a small page with major stuff like "Oh my god, my stuff doesn't > > > compile" or "It can't find my library!" would help. Ways of solving it > > > would also be nice. I was thinking of having the page archive things that > > > are 1 month old and everything else is front page. Let me know what the > > > thoughts are on that. Ok, that's it... > > > > That's a good idea, something like topic on #gentoo, but in form of a website > > (and perhaps a RSS feed?) > I like the idea. > Questions: > - do "we" want that? > - who will take care of it? > > wkr, > Patrick > -- > Stand still, and let the rest of the universe move > > > BodyID:125254787.2.n.logpart (stored separately) > > A couple other things I can see becoming an issue: 1) We don't want to undermine bugzilla's function. Yes, it's noisy, but a suitably motivated individual (to use Donnie's catchphrase) can find what they're looking for. Taking people off bugzilla could mean less bugs solved, and it could also mean people saying, "Oh, look, it's not on the RSS feed! Let's file a bug." 2) At the risk of merely restating Patrick's second question, maintaining a mini-bugzilla (I know that's not what it will be, but nonetheless) takes developers off of solving bugs, instead tasking them with re-packaging existing solutions that can be found (refer to 1 ;P). That been said, I think it's a great idea for those who don't know a lot about the open source process or even Linux in general. Maybe it would be a good idea to make the page refer back to bugzilla often enough to make people wonder what it is, as well as get them used to the sight of it. That makes it less work, as the maintainers can merely summarize solutions only if necessary, and link up to the bugs. I know this would be really useful for when we have those common bugs where you see a bajillion duplicates. From people who think bugzilla is a forum to post their problems. -- Joshua Baergen -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list