From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E788158089 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 21:27:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F4BE2BC193; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 21:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from james.steelbluetech.co.uk (james.steelbluetech.co.uk [92.63.139.228]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFC152BC103 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 21:27:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ukinbox.ecrypt.net (hq2.ehuk.net [10.0.10.2]) by james.steelbluetech.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6934ABFC13 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 22:27:18 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 james.steelbluetech.co.uk 6934ABFC13 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ehuk.net; s=default; t=1694467638; bh=no9EsxISKNZ7MzdWSwznlBxSjenErJ6Tc+N8o/7/bJ4=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To:From; b=hje/Pcfz9CO4TIIV7+/zzoiETW/DY8tmPNpnqDv8cjWZZX2/yH3QIbVWDVjnyz2hM lb9C6905EgSMKC9/r08ukLpmfSo+TlS1bgcnYulgUmmTPCqd/4dcThXG5nRSZ8c2+W v2aUeuunYyi9B6gbEZIyo93ll/dGHmP5i8HEu98Nnh3RpFXnNUxzGzm3EeT0Fbv2uH 1VtQdTagvRAUz5lhkjA6g5914fe9hhPiBgIkO+v7PeLuQxtWVKIxd7GjKY0O7ooqFN C7LsNGePASCRrb7MxGCt/lvwxnH72RUeZ5/UmrTVajPF0KIWukrWpJTnaPKsSZPq+K g8glWaya/njkg== Message-ID: <5d96d41de2f7057b42b436783678c8c4.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> In-Reply-To: <87zg1szc23.fsf@gentoo.org> References: <7802203.lOV4Wx5bFT@kona> <20230911082243.65aa85f5@Akita> <4128737.ElGaqSPkdT@kona> <20230911084231.73dd619f@Akita> <5848191c-8708-edfe-0c69-eeced3907b0d@gmail.com> <87zg1szc23.fsf@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2023 22:27:18 +0100 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev From: "Eddie Chapman" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.2 [SVN] Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang X-Archives-Salt: 7c625e5f-ad9a-41df-ac86-5923fcceb3ad X-Archives-Hash: 6c6ae0a4d17d54bee7f3e8a80fa58966 Sam James wrote: > > Dale writes: > >> orbea wrote: >>> On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 17:29:47 +0200 >>> "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: >>> >>>> Am Montag, 11. September 2023, 17:22:43 CEST schrieb orbea: >>>> >>>>> Upstream is maintained still. >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/eudev-project/eudev >>>>> >>>> No, it's not. >>>> >>> Based on what? It has several commits this year and is currently >>> working on both of my systems. Is there something specific showing why >>> its not maintained? >> >> On the link above it says this: >> >> On 2021-08-20 Gentoo decided to abandon eudev and a new project was >> established on 2021-09-14 by Alpine, Devuan and Gentoo contributors >> (alphabetical order). >> >> It seems to have a upstream that is active but no one is maintaining it >> on Gentoo.  Basically, it needs a Gentoo maintainer now.  It would >> seem given the time span that no one wants to take it.  >> >> Like others, I use it but didn't know it wasn't maintained anymore.  I >> hope someone will step up but if not, looks like we have to use udev.  > > No, see the linked bugs. Someone has to actually make it compatible > with the tags API which software is starting to use. > It seems there is work still ongoing to that end: https://github.com/eudev-project/eudev/issues/249 A quick look at the bug list in the original announcement today, they appear to almost all be bugs for Gentoo maintainers to address rather than upstream, and one or two it's questionable if they are actually bugs. I think it is a rather large stretch to claim that upstream is dead, the evidence just doesn't show that. So what's the situation with the current Gentoo maintainers? Have they disappeared? I often see on here packages being offered up for grabs. Why hasn't there been a call to give others the opportunity to volunteer as maintainers rather than going straight to last riting the package? Or has that happened and I've missed it, in which case I apologise.