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From: Armando Di Cianno <fafhrd@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] any interest in removing /usr/qt and /usr/kde ?
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 19:38:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5cd1f229f47011114cecad3b3f29983a@mudra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200409192323.23736@malte.stretz.eu.org>

Some questions, and my $0.02 ...

>>> I really do think this is what /opt was intended for.  "Add-on" 
>>> sounds
>>> to me like it's one of those purposefully open-ended words that you 
>>> can
>>> interpret however you like.  Actually, the whole section on /opt in 
>>> the
>>> FHS reads that way ...
...
> But currently each distro does it how the maintainer like it (or 
> interprets 
> the FHS) -- Gentoo uses /usr/kde, SuSE /opt/kde, RedHat something 
> else, and I 
> think Debian throws all the stuff into /usr.  To me this sounds like 
> the FHS 
> is flawed if it comes to stuff like this.  Even the /usr/X11R6 
> directory is 
> only there because it was always there though an alternative is 
> missing, too.

So, I'm taking care of bringing a usable GNUstep system into portage.  
(Anyone following this: I'm pretty much waiting for another stable 
release of -gui, as to not litter portage with cvs-pull-and-tar 
ebuilds, before uploading anything...).

GNUstep has classically been installed into /usr/GNUstep, which would 
obviously violate the FHS.  The thing is, imho, the FHS is for 
UNIX/UNIX-like systems, while GNUstep just-so-happens to be a system 
that can run on top of UNIX/UNIX-like systems (as well as Windows, OS 
X, etc).  All that is required is a "root" to place it's base, and any 
other run-time created files can be bridged into the FHS as 
appropriate.

The problem is, that quite like X11, the hierarchy under .../GNUstep 
is different from the rest of the FHS recommended directories, 
reflecting the fact that GNUstep is not UNIX.  I'd happily use /opt, 
but that seems rather non-Gentoo, atm.

I'll be following this thread, and will likely follow recommendations, 
as applicable, that are made for qt or kde.  Keep in mind that GNUstep 
is "a whole other system" and not just a "set of libraries and 
programs".  Any specific recommendations about what I should do 
concerning GNUstep would also be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for keeping this in mind,
__armando




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  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-19 23:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-19 19:50 [gentoo-dev] any interest in removing /usr/qt and /usr/kde ? Thomas Weidner
2004-09-19 19:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-09-19 20:07   ` Mike Frysinger
2004-09-19 20:06 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-19 20:07   ` Joshua J. Berry
2004-09-19 20:13     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-09-19 20:16     ` Dan Armak
2004-09-19 20:26       ` Joshua J. Berry
2004-09-19 20:29         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-09-19 22:23           ` Joshua J. Berry
2004-09-20  8:41             ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-19 20:37         ` Dan Armak
2004-09-19 21:23           ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-19 23:38             ` Armando Di Cianno [this message]
2004-09-20  8:48             ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20  9:47               ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-20 15:56                 ` Armando Di Cianno
2004-09-20 19:52                   ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-20 15:40               ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 18:30                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20 19:45                   ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-19 22:35           ` Joshua J. Berry
2004-09-20  4:10             ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20  4:27               ` Mike Frysinger
2004-09-20  4:47                 ` Luke-Jr
2004-09-20  6:09               ` Joshua J. Berry
2004-09-20  9:05                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20 15:55                 ` Sami Samhuri
2004-09-20 16:22             ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-20 16:36               ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-20 16:44                 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 17:19                   ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-20 17:36                     ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 22:58                       ` foser
2004-09-20 17:42                 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-20 16:37               ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 17:35                 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-20 18:52                   ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20 19:17                     ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-21 10:47                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2004-09-21 11:02                         ` Duncan
2004-09-21 12:05                         ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-21  4:58             ` Joel Konkle-Parker
2004-09-21  9:49               ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20  7:49       ` [gentoo-dev] " Simon Watson
2004-09-19 20:09   ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-28  2:51   ` [gentoo-dev] " John Croisant
2004-09-28  8:19     ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-28  9:24       ` Peter Ruskin
2004-09-28  9:37         ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-28 20:32       ` John Croisant
2004-09-29  9:07         ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-19 21:55 ` [gentoo-dev] " Luke-Jr
2004-09-19 23:06   ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Weidner
2004-09-20  0:03     ` Luke-Jr
2004-09-20  0:55       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-09-20  3:50         ` Luke-Jr
2004-09-21  5:10         ` Joel Konkle-Parker
2004-09-21 17:29           ` Helmar Wieland

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