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> I can understand chris's position. but it would be nice if he would
> consider the development of  a script for the "livecd" that could
> extract the stage4 on it and include documentation in the handbook on
> how to do it.

being done for next release.  i'm assuming you meant stage3 here.

> because as is the installers don't allow for enough flexibility.

on the contrary, most of our problems in the installer come from
offering too much flexibility.

I personally would like to know who decided to put bottom
> and I think top partition size limits in the installer. the limits
> should have been dictated by the filesystem limits themselves.

partition limits are decided by the size of the drive and the other
partitions on it.

> another option might be a "skip section" of the
> installer." that way we can on do the stage4 part, and forget the rest
> if we want. would any of this be such a hard and impossible thing for
> releng to do and support?

this support already exists.  the installer has modes for stage4 and
chroot installations.

-Codeman
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