From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3OKs4q4008573 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:54:05 GMT Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 13so962048nzp for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:54:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FlEtuz7dwuF0Lqu/kGjGguh6quclPFAqzy6KdX6SKm6dorqajZdo1fORIINsltj3lmXeMJN9cv2X2k62FEMp1qAos1B9oxsxrL/C8+PvIF3H/awo1x7IzddykE9RME2yaqosxCvN/92usJgMl+PGMm9Bnq5c/u3MpQSOhr1y5uQ= Received: by 10.36.61.11 with SMTP id j11mr435445nza; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.57.7 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5a67a16f05042413545f4cc7a2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:14 -0400 From: Athul Acharya To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] cleaning out 'bc' and 'ed' from system In-Reply-To: <20050424144556.A26350@leftmind.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050422064651.GA7439@sympatico.ca> <4268A33F.9070704@gentoo.org> <20050424144556.A26350@leftmind.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by robin.gentoo.org id j3OKs4q4008573 X-Archives-Salt: 9ef6c3f3-a344-43dd-b485-7a15790ea557 X-Archives-Hash: e95150ed02b30911fbefc59bd895ce7e > Possibly there should be a "tradunix" ebuild that pulls in all the > traditional Unix stuff as dependencies (and is otherwise empty), and > similarly for other sets of things people hold dear, just to act as > macros when you're setting up a system. I think this is a spectacular idea. The push towards cleaning out unneccessary things from system is correct, and should not be halted, but a sysadmin new to gentoo who wants to have the "standard UNIX tools" readily available shouldn't have to figure out what's missing and what's not. To this end a "tradunix" or somesuch metaebuild that pulls in bc, ed, etc., as well as possibly some less traditional but very UNIX-y things that should be on more systems (like nc and lsof) would be excellent. Of course, what should be included in this metaebuild is an open question subject to debate, but that can be hashed out later and changed when necessary -- but just having it exist would be a good start. Athul -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list