From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40930139694 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B46391FC131; Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.wilcox-tech.com (mail.wilcox-tech.com [45.32.83.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E48E1FC077 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:13:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22056 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2017 21:12:27 -0000 Received: from ip68-13-242-69.ok.ok.cox.net (HELO ?10.1.1.57?) (awilcox@wilcox-tech.com@68.13.242.69) by mail.wilcox-tech.com with ESMTPA; 28 Jul 2017 21:12:27 -0000 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Future of gentoo's stable and unstable trees: what are your thoughts? To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20170724222223.6d359e47@sf> From: "A. Wilcox" Organization: =?UTF-8?Q?Ad=c3=a9lie_Linux?= Message-ID: <597BA8BA.1010003@adelielinux.org> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 16:12:26 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: e9f05db7-2105-422e-aa9f-e877e80bbbc8 X-Archives-Hash: e797029e5a59895ea7724c11095aa207 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 28/07/17 15:10, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > Gentoo is as stable as YOU make it!!!! And by "YOU", that would be the people writing ebuilds and committing them without test suites or integration testing of any kind. The devs who yell and complain all day about "standards" and "not breaking the tree" then go and break the tree and violate any standard ever set. With the possible exception of mgorny and pacho, I'm not sure if I have any faith in anyone left in Gentoo. I knew the political climate in Gentoo was always yearning for better days, but I could never have foreseen how bad the technical aspects could become. This attitude of "the user is to blame" is the reason I moved Adélie's upstream elsewhere. I am still running Gentoo on a few production servers, but this whole thread and /especially/ this message has made me realise I'm probably better off with Fedora until Adélie is ready. At least I have a good reason to unsubscribe now. Farewell, - --arw - -- A. Wilcox (awilfox) Project Lead, Adélie Linux http://adelielinux.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJZe6i2AAoJEMspy1GSK50U9MYP/2RhhrDBTaOa11DE5IC5rkSj 1iDYX8m3hr4kFgbHMTtIf+crYaELnZXr5uR5rFTb56q2vgrTs7xHN802W9a8GJV/ uRH1R/FzT3nZ3X0tS5Yz2wq+H7SICd5WQ8241BrkPyXgXcHy7/s2ubmewKnwoQHv sdUlA0/XCHItTApItmhOosCxaHcuAhQhbynfbSDKW5gN4dtxrnZq03xzNZL3dazh j23gNjUEaefLb9NlxbEZIxeOqrBbeaMnKjIMjPbPdV4RUqoQup43fognKJ2TPij3 LnN52HmY/ZLgD8RYQwyBui/WuqV62i/vdi/Iy4uPNDZnOMr1va2Wscj5mawnOXcB hpOEYrhSNykiGT1hyg1LPZqgjfw8ovAuwNU84An9vVAPkvqVGS0fCGN0W2lCT/oV o2SYJy2IKhkxTay7R2wklCeKTmXqo1yoQjp/zuGMD/pzAgln2h5Pc/9KjiDSo6pn mPsHOeWINjHqsUHdPeJAGjMkJaksA/my0tpzWyxkCmpxc/CVNa7HDt0HWWd5KkIO SFv33Cyj7NYVVs+E6c8+C7BCh7XgIB1DoexicFT9vDR7ThiTNU3PJMoYjxv+t3Tp Z7mUK19z/TQZNVst396AcujrhvyQC2zLbg03sGwRZR6m2GjlcYLeuIbZL6eS43Mc Pf2A1DrXM6tr4MMtOQXn =i0I9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----