On 12/08/16 18:40, james wrote: > On 08/12/2016 10:39 AM, Kent Fredric wrote: >> On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 09:12:22 -0500 >> james wrote: >> >>> (also, I'm not hung up on 'Jentoo' as a name; perhaps 'Gintoo'? >>> >>> (peace && hth), >>> James >> >> Way outside the scope needed here. However we pull off Zhenchoo, its >> going to be built on top of portage and our package management with >> extra bling. >> >> That's what is necessary to empower people with "ready built" machines >> to customize it in the direction of a "natural gentoo install" >> >> All this converstation details is: >> >> - Is a given technique good >> - Can it be installed in tree without breaking things >> - How do we do that >> - Is there a place we can do it where the problem is isolated to a >> narrow spectrum of users to limit potential fallout >> - Is this a "Put warning bells on it and let users blow off their own >> feet and then don't do it by default"[1] thing. >> - Can this be a "Just package.mask the problem on hardened" thing. >> >> All of those can be combined in some way to get and end result by >> whoever ships the stage 4 the way they want to do it. They can use an >> overlay if they want. >> >> Nothing is stopping them :) >> >> Other than themselves of course. >> > > That simple huh? > > Ok, show us a solution based on your dashed items, for the current > Valve/Steam/issues, and wrap up those very cool aforementioned games > into a stage 4? > > I'd even settle for a liveDVD on that..... Remember:: > Nothing is stopping you, other than yourself of course.... > > > James > > Kent's suggestions are quite valid, and indeed a good starting point for anyone wishing to push their ideas forward (deliberately avoiding no names at this point). I can say that Kent is doing a stirling job supporting the Perl project with an enormous amount of effort in keeping Perl current and valid for the Gentoo distribution, and wouldn't be best placed to add to his already full workload - we are all volunteers at the end of the day .. or did someone forget that. I regret to say, although it's a well-known problem .. that the Gentoo bike-shed is never ever going to fall down - as the layers of paint applied will grossly outlive the materials it might once have been built from ... Perhaps someone might like to address the problem of the nuclear reactor which will otherwise never ever be functional ... ;)