From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC51D138262 for ; Fri, 20 May 2016 13:34:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C0C5614242; Fri, 20 May 2016 13:34:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.74]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 694A6224077 for ; Fri, 20 May 2016 13:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.6.147] ([91.125.237.217]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MTgfY-1bCeVG0HCq-00QOw5 for ; Fri, 20 May 2016 15:34:26 +0200 Message-ID: <573F1261.4050605@iee.org> Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 14:34:25 +0100 From: "M. J. Everitt" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] new developers' keyword requests References: <20160519165130.7e9bc385@wim.fritz.box> <550ab3a6-1a4b-fa19-b111-5cbf82fe597e@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 OpenPGP: id=93C22371 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KP9SGxvC31NBdpbwNGG31pBSqiXSEhiJ0" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:HmoBdTYX3g2xiEGmuoTqlC9mZCW2pJTf0bfxRfyJqinNg43ONQr FL/8Gkxxn4RDIJHhiRtGaFCdmirHZ2xywJpVH/cqw3l/bDRPtt68t3HeDDsslo+iX1CxSsR whpqYpj9gkPW84V2gVenfgzelb4zsyhd8nHZ9+8emyK8hsBXoMxJqUxbyUKo/XRYoJAOoZc RC3qlOIzYJdzDaB3DBFNA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:Y+Oz2cpMfdg=:zaf2mxoQdzguCTxu0mLdFk Bt0rRRYA01vxe40Ip86G/FpdXV/RglTpL2CeF/eaykKePF0VQvgTlibvDPsk7wqchAHsW+qAd phO3H8vqnFHOrXDgeiGSYuuOPUo4LVjOOJ2jjoueGNk6KJxXgH75gas5gtPRYU9hLLta7CSsp AxfIzZNwyobqu++6QOrjx7+j7SPvsmtNK8TWVb13xw/uy6pLk4EM9tXhn7H/f9YWFVmNH6m32 gj9s3QN30e+Lp9R9lg1QClh2Uy8sIofVpJsQy+YKlKxyGAZ8lUkJbVv4cNJwAjiOS3h6IUIP0 SxachMVCtMF7DbFNtscKTrdmwUuJ+BWb12v+cwo8Ydtoqixj6lRU7qkeblx2AsojR9aejgnLV a82rncoE47DXlBKQ1NCm3AeByr8Sn6aKRoqaINh88G9yzcVXKaYVtVNd5HLWbsQoV440VKNNU 9lPvUveG9ualh6ade9GLJ/MX/8uJa3hAxJ8B5apKnERPshbJ/xDBjRgW3jzRXSjWcjy4An4We AxwGZnO5WIn3lxAOYX8t0wJP4/6rC00mkszNMa2Go8HVTYNYBhgVQFAak7qVOZcPmt4ZgzJ25 p6wRUMR6D8yv4rd/YUcz7xKKbf6/OdCB8gh4IjnRPONyLCZOvQav78+JLrqnwyO8gwI7UlV1b W+PH6CQhCkSMM2vSpI9qs9x0HjsI0n8oew+tIHuXGWx6acUoAvwcZHjQ5Z0SuVzlTSuo= X-Archives-Salt: b00f48eb-59d9-4ab3-8ec4-d929c88f4636 X-Archives-Hash: 49a479e27fb0b8f4e1681684a5f271e3 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --KP9SGxvC31NBdpbwNGG31pBSqiXSEhiJ0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 20/05/16 14:11, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > >> keywording for a new arch should normally only be done when necessary,= >> mainly if it is a direct dependency of another package. There is no ne= ed >> to keywor it for an arch until it has been tested on that arch by some= >> user / developer ... certainly not because some committing developer >> think it is nice to have all arches listed just in case. >> > I should actually elaborate on this (in addition to fixing some spellin= g > errors..), something to the line of "There is no need to keyword it for= > an arch until it is being _used_ by some user/developer on that arch" > My understanding as a prospective maintainer and dev, was that when you write an ebuild, you keyword the arches where /you personally/ have successfully built the package as ~arch . If you as maintainer or a user(s) then request stabilisation, that is where the arch teams, arch testing, etc. come into play. The only exception (if any!) is where amd64 and x86 often have an overlap whereby if it builds on one .. there's a good probability it will work on the other. As far as fresh *new* arches to Gentoo, is this really a thing?! Surely we need a body of maintainers willing to support a new arch, and a new 'team' forming for such purposes, for bug fixes, stabilisation, etc. Sounds to me rather a case of simply misunderstanding what the KEYWORDS actually means and does in the context of Gentoo as a distro, else I've got the wrong end of the stick somewhere .... --KP9SGxvC31NBdpbwNGG31pBSqiXSEhiJ0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXPxJhAAoJEEwwM0+TwiNxBhsP/RiVA4bdf4xeejlMoyaK75kL 43Z6QO4ETIg5apUxtBmwwvFla+DpQ5PswhIuVkKioFHK5x4BkdysnYAdSD3WuHk0 B4qw25zzLDhK/irtOuaUuno7aSNngOETvp+Qmf6kjP4aKQ47yEGZbjKEtTeXBzkk Xu9xA2Hjib8BAwD3Be+dIyXQg3CoHBHlU3csZrdsBNttGdhhiQfprDAZ9gyOcEc4 NQq/vFsmGJd6owqUPcuTvBV/pv2u7xEfnK7lw3yDND5ZPIkj8kK9jY6UMigG60yJ j0lVy0XUvd4lclMW/Y1Hs6Oi9LbeFnRxh5Wv+H1nb01bvRSM47/1mu7dNJg2TEr8 HqZXl2rCNKUDJtdzmH8O36H+xtMP0bDe1sGGdk86uhroH/N1+vpQPXBm+Wwjbz7H ZaRDkjfeRuN0Sq5mRjwKExguGwrrKqSiFc+YeHb71L8rLSxJDD9FbvEzQw9balBg Q8XWiA0lFr6CacoKwfYLW5ZH+7re92P3x7S7MMgAcnNZUh/89Ev6YtClR0LYI/zy FIgPcM81cXmoNrkTzBNeqNJOHajC/VQNgXjRevrBYkM5SYBUBsB8IVSI5fg36GZf fTCTSeqQFrUJspQnSvWgTvOIZV1U9cy/h1li9uh1zS6XKfmffgElH4lpuVSi4QXa 5nkT/24haTDcjEWc066w =wLDv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KP9SGxvC31NBdpbwNGG31pBSqiXSEhiJ0--