From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BAC13825A for ; Sun, 15 May 2016 01:13:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0712D142D5; Sun, 15 May 2016 01:12:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63C85142BB for ; Sun, 15 May 2016 01:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.178] ([84.92.211.151]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M2GKi-1brEna0fbg-00s7bV for ; Sun, 15 May 2016 03:12:38 +0200 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: eclass/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <1462655928.66afcab271f65b97330e610040ad3acc1b812a03.hd_brummy@gentoo> <2471981.YXCVhQinPE@localhost> <20160515004812.06969b6e@snowflex> <1556568.JVTqaLWHPB@localhost> From: "M. 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Everitt" Message-ID: <5737CD05.5060605@iee.org> Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 02:12:37 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6UWb5HH1WJvisNpKGdSd7Agw1rhC5UOsm" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:MvWYwACNgd451orfi0Vc/wP3xlnXkghUYxTYm5yxSYImeXAf+1k PqB0L1YkTpyBeN0t1ErQqLlbzuzSMS/iUJ2EskfboGLSOWIA+CytDDfG1soMz4P11hlYuj7 MYFDicurzkkgy9GHVijIX070JpnhfybMAE6BQap43LW9k6cgoipJ66L/JOWT5WbhAYkRU/3 TRpYBSVxp33YOreyzVGyw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:y1La7Ka5nyw=:R+c3pFjXGeAqnWrt6oECt2 uSZ5RqQOJVhI9a3kriPmkbm4/qoSPBcP8xYA7/l7GFPXSaxCF5ObVe0wBhZrGqz9UCzktaUAd Kk+qJH/ltpil7RtXQ5uRtKGOW9FwO/7++VLV9F1BP2Fk3hvHh21FxOkULdcZxZ97sRo//Lo9f sx6xK7IxuWuPqL+S/hvpbCwbNY2n7t596jOXH2dDRzghsJeBYNxMHnTtp3UmJai0jAAV0F+/n PzpAt43HkpCM0YfGc0IjF6XbQLklWeztYQP2TZZc1ET+yVnqYcKqE3CYo2zVLF6MwBLs8oZRI /MIhh02rU0vS35Yb3w6ypHDaYpVKeeoUFURwDLM09hL0OcMDTbg87Ugyak5/gGWKaYWhGscX6 XhY548li7BDRRRRiFIOs2kGrmOmmU7rF8qy3mGn8WZLp4BJdHCbFDnJVR85q0yEID6h+KYgkI X46m0AZvMITUJemn1L1xbrcSfy+0x3VdILQKumjHEs6UIb+rKJQVTEkhknKdZix0ouyGJh5F4 Zu0y55QP/dqz9kfUdsAk6jHzmKY1M9sxsbplh0bnuaYL/SERQAebWVr9L0YPJ5AnUhkCssJFC KMT98B4sEzvuCzmC8Gy7vzrL/BeA6NCOmz9bVV7KsdCdLFPq/kcBUbu8b1D48DoK96BbJL/7i tNBYfhN1TYhAT/bPwV5YssCeVmhKdyDE1qZSR7xcTZhJN9DYceoFxrbPgiBnQSAi2C/4= X-Archives-Salt: e64ca7f1-63ab-42cb-88f8-d02865c8f8b4 X-Archives-Hash: d6d66a5ee14a47bfa660e20034e372be This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --6UWb5HH1WJvisNpKGdSd7Agw1rhC5UOsm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15/05/16 02:04, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 8:23 PM, Aaron Bauman wrote: >> On Sunday, May 15, 2016 12:48:12 AM JST Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >>> On Sun, 15 May 2016 08:40:39 +0900 >>> >>> Aaron Bauman wrote: >>>> Please enlighten me as to what was impolite here? The strong >>>> language of "seriously" or definitively stating that the individual >>>> did not perform the necessary QA actions before committing? Both of= >>>> which are completely called for and appropriate. No vulgarity, >>>> insults, or demeaning words were used. How would you have responded >>>> professionally? >>> It's important to remember that Gentoo is run by volunteers. Expectin= g >>> a professional standard when it comes to the quality of commit >>> criticism is unfair. >> Applying that same rationale, it would be unfair to say that an undesc= ribed >> level of professionalism in communication is required as well. Nothin= g here >> violates the CoC. >> > If you're only able to behave in a professional manner if the > standards of professionalism are explicitly spelled out, I think > you're missing the point. > > Ultimately it is an attitude. When you point out a mistake make it > either about: > 1. Helping the person who made the mistake to improve because you > want to see them make better contributions (which they aren't going to > do if you drive them off). > 2. If you feel that somebody simply isn't going to cut it, then by > all means report them so that their commit access can be revoked. > > Either of these has the potential to make Gentoo better. Simply > posting flames isn't likely to change the behavior of people who need > #2, and it is likely to discourage people who need #1. Either is > against all of our interests in making the distro we benefit from > better. > +1 --6UWb5HH1WJvisNpKGdSd7Agw1rhC5UOsm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXN80FAAoJEEwwM0+TwiNxUmgP/RCNQsIH9vejh3uOfB8OHeXb E862KjHTe/Hq7w9wih+tDY0t5Kco7E0Twnt/AHeHDLepD3Ykf6NzaZdtksLm06Pk 9Yef7+YUCgr5r3mzdaqMk7W+qbcN6zCrTbQBADuwr3ZjVLit7kX06gY8PC9yw87V IfcyWVNSX0hMy9OIlNF/F80FFzEW/xt7EdAvp0Sg+U7X+taRiJz4WiOsdMOGVDVq 4PTLgw80X4NcEbOY9+PuBTNyrSkr6iyOx01m2vlP2oSClHMl+ZmK64RbFvtKsyic 79rs3hdyyb/miWu/PBO9A9uGrPRFe4IYJ4aqoJHCfwTQeuEvG4q3KB3uHgAaQQ6n 0dsFXn1fSSWKpLg+0rlOQjyx6o65WuLXKYDtFmYqq+38IxSz56Dxa+w3GLbrFdMt g1GlyngQ9L5xQV7HaJzQhlkG8BtvKKms4CDi/fhYQu65gV+Vx6zG7lCMfwvdM2yU uGrTWysiRoUmF/Sv3DGQhIA+mtOdpqZZHOVZyTVE0VkJC10V2O4FO6s/RrbLVj+C ek7ty/IB81HHpCGl5AqzN8epw4ASj9UOlBaRlAuoAGZb1/BxuplTGxdD9YmP9tui 3RFmpfWd4RJJH/VRjw+uQ8lME21QpPrhdUuiost4hxDwEbW1nhnDwrJKvkuyP+xG 5TVdYWcL/lWpshqv/rQD =3wft -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6UWb5HH1WJvisNpKGdSd7Agw1rhC5UOsm--