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Everitt" <m.j.everitt@iee.org> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] usr merge References: <57087E0D.3090502@gmail.com> <20160409053230.GA16529@waltdnes.org> <CAGfcS_miZ1mx7JuyEYpXpM1Ttf-BGYes4=a-F0YnB6rrx823mA@mail.gmail.com> <20160409160938.GA17530@waltdnes.org> <CADPrc80pDAZgMFbgTR6TXJTRSkGU8ejPpHSmWA1M8L3Wh6tC1Q@mail.gmail.com> <20160409194943.GA1271@ca.inter.net> <CADPrc81TGrw9Sgk-X4gv9GEKiBCGoef+nrZLHvQP0An7YQrm3g@mail.gmail.com> <20160409225049.GA1276@ca.inter.net> <570995fe.44c7b60a.fb125.6a14@mx.google.com> <5709A062.4010800@iee.org> <CAGfcS_k4evRbWC7cQLyDKv8pUDJf73XoXPC7tXrv0qb8t=UhrQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_k4evRbWC7cQLyDKv8pUDJf73XoXPC7tXrv0qb8t=UhrQ@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 OpenPGP: id=93C22371 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KgghgVSHNRVQqHPh0u8abrCn78g5QaFhx" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:SU3pZN6f0/fqHhD39iZbvsdinJz23EmK/jixT9Ky3WnbrEG5cdU q691EGBcSZP4WGcdf756CI3QtO/hVXMTBLilG8Mg/cOPokeYI0aWzuG1XN+znzxCa6Vxgic HdoEdChtNOb1S8G6ymWEPLUGtO+5zE/OtiBwAGxFf35Z0+xzgMLImosv7rGKg2FRyVAGYRU E6OgGoYHKsX9PUBsMnWVQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:s7kvucyD0wY=:o3he1kXt6lfyts1wpX3IQw ivF7X+gUJvzGhmACaoxFk7ttJcgV+NT+0BDRiU+m3akbjaG9wzS63u2V3dHRjrUYPx3K3Eg0f 1lFFmhjIM1uWrBSbIkh9pcV7nuogFEAt7gDgrfAbnQWBHjULkKNPhoDLigb1ClWRXvDT606AH eKbC74vPm5ai+MbGLYGafzLJnp8dkRP8gihAR6LClhBSlPP/liGNEwM9YDy10ua7xY73R83pv pOqB9vKAz+ttMdHFXd+UKaV/8O0Nst8jTogVqwtyVwoMAUk4ET6UA9RkmvSxbDg8ROUnPCk9y bBCBqjvXpU4g7BW+3VtA9Ex0fNfmM58WSlpU6cRCbEbvy4z+//iF7JkIhSY1m5f5DAK/Pmlwu 9j3B7798lu5K3XP803PU+e7Xt6du499V9fsFC1T2zor/ORB1zcoKGDbWpQAbhNe++1ACT9ONS mn8rQk7rykJRno9np1uHl+EMR9A7hilZL2Jv7Fhqn3HXWNNzUCO5Gp5FZv8cofvXk8lyQVw2v god/sTut8sAWO5HNMq21vMDzU7QM+c+LpIYzXD5GqnSXDbR9WRrX2Z6oqwLatcdFBPGHGEiYv 4JnBGMyeuwkPTAX90fDnt2uNdsty1DOcDZCW3dpF9w1wN9LvW4ygBtL+UbTIyNfpTj8vXEP3u bZlzcBQPOxz2tqEZ5DFJJlO0XxD/jHGttH4KFoSAkAq+cDLgvBP760/9xQe00nqol09U= X-Archives-Salt: e267ef63-ee59-46b5-9be7-5240d3bcfc54 X-Archives-Hash: 5aae632bfb49db9fc7f5783d0d4e4244 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --KgghgVSHNRVQqHPh0u8abrCn78g5QaFhx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/04/16 02:14, Rich Freeman wrote: > Part of me also wonders if Gentoo would be better off having emerge > gentoo-sources actually BUILD the kernel and initramfs and not just > dump a bunch of sources on the disk. Most distros consider an > initramfs a no-brainer because it just ships already setup, and an > initramfs is a lot more forgiving when you add a new drive and your > firmware/kernel decides to re-number everything. Just label your > filesystems or store UUIDs and the initramfs will figure out what > happened. > I think that is the potential for a stage4-style install. I think previous list discussions have maintained that the flexibility of gentoo is maintained by having a very basic install image, and a stage3 to bootstrap into, and have the user compile their own kernel. Otherwise, go install debian/ubuntu/choose-your-own-ready-boxed-linux =2E.. gentoo isn't that kinda distro. 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