From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA29159CAF for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2016 14:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 145ED21C054; Fri, 8 Apr 2016 14:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-f54.google.com (mail-oi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08CA4E089A for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2016 14:20:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-f54.google.com with SMTP id w85so137992624oiw.0 for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 07:20:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:sender:date:from:to:subject:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=01ps5hDDRzYwY9ezPfIyz6QwEAxit1VUoZixIYwEtvE=; b=CD3qp5DMCR8CNBlEngIkUPzTOZV6R6pzbal2JHmnTlU5Q7ZY/JVK/zOAZaG5dfPfl1 5llFRwCuKGDZAOTnpQxq9f7P8Lh8RWVYL0j+/7jEI38XjzXseN9VgIdNaqcHvUdvAaBb GGBl3kVKVie15HoQB/F3Ja05Usci6WxBJq90ykotyITo2npAQE6DCx7QWqusxlk4OMy/ 7H7qCNCcZM793kl4DURfM7tldxu++ixPekozOieKgstv2Bq8Mad7shLjmbn2ocQ8SwH7 tX8VrcO0SE7zRYF6cQ5lXk4ZnPNRhmPpwxYDYDxIQ+IV22m4MVnKuxgbqM+40FLp5uvk sHKA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:sender:date:from:to:subject :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=01ps5hDDRzYwY9ezPfIyz6QwEAxit1VUoZixIYwEtvE=; b=cPU2lideaYPsvF+Fg8AAdL6anDUdUO0FSit7fw9+RpJhM2DsMQfVvbLYcVzMfYw/CM C5k4o9yvnVzr300sTFuKUAT2QjBYz9RK59groltCSQxU8Gnr+qFK/+LS+5Vg/Pr1JDEF WtHdHx0m7b0/RYkVI5bhPwJ+iLAh/SeNe+7yZYz8Lp6wxUMJF3eIYY0kgSM8kT+QgxF8 krOmjxbOmYA5anNLqno71kdQxgVcxd1kep1l9NrhHO+7oSg/Pz7Az7NmfBeH7r3EPeui vx3Ovl3HV2tJh7DpzCOnS2dlgSkD3WBOQAXQqp2sAnWZ/1ysmz1F7BHbVKQM7M8JpXby Vf5A== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJ+wiAcnbAOQeAHu6JEs/7VXX+00WBSHyO0SkPgF3gAtiER4TBZIp1GzBJavb11Yw== X-Received: by 10.202.201.198 with SMTP id z189mr4364893oif.98.1460125230075; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 07:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux1 (cpe-66-68-34-247.austin.res.rr.com. [66.68.34.247]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r10sm4036407oih.15.2016.04.08.07.20.28 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Apr 2016 07:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5707be2c.0af3ca0a.86e6c.ffffef69@mx.google.com> X-Google-Original-Message-ID: <20160408142019.GA4390@linux1.gaikai.biz,> Sender: William Hubbs Received: (nullmailer pid 4889 invoked by uid 1000); Fri, 08 Apr 2016 14:20:19 -0000 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 09:20:19 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] usr merge Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <5707191B.7060909@gmail.com> <57071AF6.7060206@iee.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <57071AF6.7060206@iee.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Archives-Salt: 9ba75fe3-9c20-400a-9014-4f1fa23abfaf X-Archives-Hash: 275818e9d9a0eb6a43832b8060159ad1 --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 03:44:06AM +0100, M. J. Everitt wrote: > 3) I still believe there is merit in distinguishing between binaries > that can/should be run as root, and those that can/should not. Those > that run as root 100% of the time, or use VMs, don't really 'use' linux > in the original sense of the OS .. Here is more info about the split and why it exists. It turns out it hs nothing to do with system admininistration or permissions. http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/busybox/2010-December/074114.html http://www.osnews.com/story/25556/Understanding_the_bin_sbin_usr_bin_usr_sbin_Split/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3519952 In short, this is all a historical artifact with justifications thought up after the fact. William --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlcHvh4ACgkQblQW9DDEZTixZwCgnuarBi/Pkhdr+QXVsiONF0Q0 tHcAoIo48yelOguA6SnQ7DDy02nBYfr1 =kitA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS--