From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A033059CAF for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2016 15:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B87B21C09F; Fri, 8 Apr 2016 15:14:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B918721C01E for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2016 15:14:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.6.147] ([91.125.237.217]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MRijR-1bGpXG2mFN-00T0XE for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 17:14:43 +0200 Message-ID: <5707CAE2.4000109@iee.org> Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2016 16:14:42 +0100 From: "M. J. Everitt" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] usr merge References: <5707191B.7060909@gmail.com> <57071AF6.7060206@iee.org> <5707be2c.0af3ca0a.86e6c.ffffef69@mx.google.com> <5707C144.2090004@iee.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 OpenPGP: id=93C22371 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Y1hx+sBJFiyb+ynFYYex1qfvgkBLCh5IfAHyLHhYJSgcAwX545G 0Z2DDQqG5exUvd6nqI3xZgm2TxJxR79yt1Vtj0uwAn/+ohVHuqQFAcnnxotFuB2aIP3nE50 DYDa01tiF/gHUKEmPqL2h2779iIBwgrLnFub46EywgkNdw5nC9yclJan/idJ5LXYoVtCegj erXPqxnm0Y3cnpeqhnshg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:PfmbV++pnbk=:koYSx1C8xksoSEqwft+wcd XT/TDINm1miFG6nur0/WCsgN94XvkZjByLFSbElDh5xYaHyN5W/pqzrtpvNSrH5YE70Am1GcL xYeUkNlmxrt96MhsshonmMeQ0xFRW+EV9FlXaez29hVH/WDFBpsp2AJbgtuO+CNjZAqUoN/EB HfuvRyKKmfvDSGn98XQUsQC0UCHRHLgSmBfCiQ+qwpVqpcl1YfLT0tf+3vmBqZhB/SPHqpqTj xHFwFvOfRxCJKcmEPjcnDdhEgiDrxgPoJoAMZ9740Tuc+23tfvIlU9mLAltjOXypdUql3dyAg u/9P3SqnRT9rjpemSMNUbM+t1nizNhE66qs+J9iO3+XZOIHZxOn1jew7LNtm5zRIRW4YpMS3p PUVfMWjKXIwky3uPU9hpJYQ5pXK5sQh+0CK5bDzpbin5KR0haMGZT1uGyxqAHPyUeq6rtVD+E km3B8E0GjH6pUz8O1RXpXmRkgyh1vMl6lJm7Lp/bPksNLe08PZ7698Mrls1lQuaUC/omHlHru 68e6kxWXskKvFwEXetfp3FQf3mXkpg5BNn8oblX8OO4VARazfweGu0X9fpRRe8kh6yBZBYUXG N6FhN0DPRst21/sj5XgFTVrGzM666hRVfCp1asGdlvc/ZGnmJex4TPBEFopovvmOWmuA5oPG4 jIyVcqBRv+zrHo4DTo0wnNn50Jy/DRKTcqSpzCpSL8s/Yc87MzEFvprGZY59L1/S5uG/6XRR4 QOp/pVDoQYwY5Y8K X-Archives-Salt: 6222a00a-dadd-4416-b4fe-5668324de97b X-Archives-Hash: 0213de0c841789343d69045a2fbd817a On 08/04/16 16:02, Rich Freeman wrote: > > The only mandatory component in a linux system, by definition, is the > Linux kernel. > > A linux system could consist of nothing but a kernel with > init=/usr/local/bin/hello-world. > > Most traditional linux distros are going to run policykit though. Of > course you can have a mostly-traditional distro that doesn't, at least > until everything wants to use dbus or whatever ends up replacing it > once son-of-kdbus comes along and gets accepted. > Being serious though, and playing Devil's Advocate of course, assuming you have no use for a desktop manager, etc, hence no need for dbus or it's 'friends' and policykit or it's pals, and you're not a "systemd fan" etc .. how are we granting the correct permissions for binaries .. just relying now on the owner and execute bits being set perfectly for each binary, assuming everything is arbitrarily moved to /xbin ...