From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F49C59CAF for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2016 14:33:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A67D21C0B1; Fri, 8 Apr 2016 14:33:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A394021C052 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2016 14:33:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.6.147] ([91.125.237.217]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Meu09-1bCPzO2BHV-00OYSn for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 16:33:47 +0200 Message-ID: <5707C144.2090004@iee.org> Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2016 15:33:40 +0100 From: "M. J. Everitt" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] usr merge References: <5707191B.7060909@gmail.com> <57071AF6.7060206@iee.org> <5707be2c.0af3ca0a.86e6c.ffffef69@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: <5707be2c.0af3ca0a.86e6c.ffffef69@mx.google.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 OpenPGP: id=93C22371 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QoRiAmcihmdADvLFNJSJcRKA6QPNuU40N" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:aPAlwGMNVbgAUjGdRDT9Zf3AKneV/tpYYyeDku3oltuYRrzCwhY pRSKkSJkusGaG337rRbhCATzavInhhQe2lyNAR593m2Qfu0EArYw6yiRfKU0PDUAM5qAtXP j92RAvft1BCF11HVQCrP6zVyVPArEXpC5VFyT9v7l0AiAX/s83XxlojChjlrbdQGfLgcw7t YRlbsa0m95zFw2Kg0HkIg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:Oj2AyeBCMeA=:q3b+q0sxyxenC8qRI7gw/V dW6TfRdMKAsC0IMftCRiiqWEcsD5PNw2jIOBUppyo0OnckFosRv8qB9EClFstIcV+ll3qlqPM hLBazWdY+cSW/3nWjzvKI407qx+F/jqjlWY+hTIWj7TU87oSvSHLdubqzBQ5x3yEZSoXOn9cw IG1yHTu/d33v3pfqeFPT/9m28VtP0wAIforBKZtIsiq0zeLScRctvdCoUduDpXDdsMcgQzQTR idJaGOq2oRy2LWOtvdyOOVYis1L79NT89QG3zA0dFuk3/zp7v/W/82lSqlHAozicHjrtAfqRS VrdurB1o8bl5u4vczEuzvnrU/ix5DmYHa0xjl/uZ65h3dZndN/VrtNmVv0/RmUXEgUdCVOY9q 0cSQ381lZzSzs7fvgIcvwz/6hmRXveNaRY1foQ0h1WIuSMvHkTskEWIioIm9e+76f8ce+v0N0 /Mm9UvWlQQ8CBO/sF2Tufo2IEV3PcRk9DlIE5pFZAta4vrL2i+yXTDEPKea+uk9by3SlDgMIM LepcPzkIcETHcEFTdTL5+z/TxVtK/yZTCjBiDq8xPPEUrNxYNM2iMsdc1AbzAzWqLl5n75ytz PfslggUFU4xP4gKmmkbdNOcRSTYmX3fn7HmWRPQ28HiwzoHxAJSIpiNtu44cGPtpbSUpSD8k5 0O+DVbaKnVZmJKVpLAZdciaTuv3PCX6duwWdu1YHlUq4TFzTbnAvfFV+vMysXiH4wMnY= X-Archives-Salt: 32346065-84e2-453c-b941-5db111e1e356 X-Archives-Hash: 225920c60c23d6e6d3d0400dac9b2ece This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --QoRiAmcihmdADvLFNJSJcRKA6QPNuU40N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/04/16 15:20, William Hubbs wrote: > On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 03:44:06AM +0100, M. J. Everitt wrote: >> 3) I still believe there is merit in distinguishing between binaries >> that can/should be run as root, and those that can/should not. Those >> that run as root 100% of the time, or use VMs, don't really 'use' linu= x >> in the original sense of the OS .. > Here is more info about the split and why it exists. It turns out it hs= > nothing to do with system admininistration or permissions. > > http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/busybox/2010-December/074114.html > http://www.osnews.com/story/25556/Understanding_the_bin_sbin_usr_bin_us= r_sbin_Split/ > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3D3519952 > > In short, this is all a historical artifact with justifications thought= > up after the fact. > > William I'll come back to the links a bit later, but is policykit and its predecessor/derivatives now a mandatory part of a linux system? 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