From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A0EA1381DF for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 22:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 07D8921C03C; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 22:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13C8921C002 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 22:16:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.2.191] (ipservice-092-214-197-095.092.214.pools.vodafone-ip.de [92.214.197.95]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: chithanh) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B12B6340BC7 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 22:16:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20160214114131.62b2deb8.dolsen@gentoo.org> <20160214202326.GE7732@vapier.lan> <20160214203454.GF7732@vapier.lan> <56C0E7E8.9090901@gentoo.org> <20160214205038.GI7732@vapier.lan> <56c12b45.aa22b60a.9e156.4fd5@mx.google.com> <20160215102900.1693a1de@gentoo.org> <20160216174541.GA1450@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> <20160216191240.5359430f@gentoo.org> <56C36BAC.3080602@gentoo.org> <20160216200516.6318fd16@gentoo.org> <56C374FB.1080803@gentoo.org> <20160216203355.3b5b178f.mgorny@gentoo.org> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Ch=c3=ad-Thanh_Christopher_Nguy=e1=bb=85n?= X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <56C39FA5.8070803@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 23:16:05 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160216203355.3b5b178f.mgorny@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 4458dcec-07fe-49f7-b832-fd5477284cc2 X-Archives-Hash: 26b8ae162a3414fb92e00fab8e726822 Michał Górny schrieb: > This all is going into some bickering nonsense and noise made by > systemd haters just to feed their troll, FUD and whatever else they > made around here. As you directed this reply at me: If you think that calling out someone for labeling valid concerns as "pure FUD" is itself bickering and FUD then I am sorry, but that is not a way we can have an argument. I explained why the concerns are valid given upstream's past behaviour and public announcements. Whether they carry more weight than the other side's concerns is a different matter, but they can certainly not be dismissed as FUD. > So, yes, we should definitely switch to semi-maintained, > semi-documented fork made plainly of systemd hate. That is a false dichotomy. Apparently in this world there exist only systemd love and systemd hate. Best regards, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn