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From: "Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn" <chithanh@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 19:53:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56C3703C.30601@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160216183531.GA1704@whubbs1.gaikai.biz>

William Hubbs schrieb:
> Maybe FUD is the incorrect way to put it, but I think us doing  > something about it at this point is definitely premature since > 
KDBUS is no where near ready to go -- they were forced to retract > it a 
while back because they had to re-think the design.

kdbus got sent for inclusion in the kernel, and they were sure ready to 
pull off their plan back then if kdbus had been accepted.

Whether switching to eudev now is premature is actually the central 
issue of this whole discussion. Given that dropping support for udev on 
non-systemd systems was narrowly avoided once, and upstream leaves no 
doubt that they are ready to do so once their redesigned kernel message 
bus goes upstream, I say describing such a move as "definitely 
premature" is not warranted.


Best regards,
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn





  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-16 18:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 178+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-08  9:08 [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider Patrick Lauer
2016-02-08  9:25 ` Brian Dolbec
2016-02-08 11:12   ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-02-08 11:19     ` Andrew Savchenko
2016-02-08 13:20       ` Dale
2016-02-08 12:52   ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2016-02-08 12:30 ` Daniel Campbell
2016-02-08 12:32   ` Patrick Lauer
2016-02-08 12:37     ` Daniel Campbell
2016-02-11  2:04       ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2016-02-08 12:46 ` Michał Górny
2016-02-08 12:56   ` Daniel Campbell
2016-02-08 15:01   ` Kent Fredric
2016-02-08 16:00   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2016-02-11  1:46     ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2016-02-11  5:13       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2016-02-11 16:42       ` [gentoo-dev] " Ian Stakenvicius
2016-02-09  0:47   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2016-02-09  1:01     ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-02-09 19:26   ` [gentoo-dev] " Mike Frysinger
2016-02-09 22:39     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2016-02-09 23:38       ` Alex McWhirter
2016-02-09 23:42         ` M. J. Everitt
2016-02-10  5:09       ` Mike Frysinger
2016-02-10 14:27         ` waltdnes
2016-02-10 14:52           ` Rich Freeman
2016-02-10 16:26             ` William Hubbs
2016-02-10 17:09               ` Brian Dolbec
2016-02-11  1:15                 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2016-02-11  1:27                   ` Daniel Campbell
2016-02-14  6:31                   ` Joshua Kinard
2016-02-10 15:25           ` Michał Górny
2016-02-10 23:10           ` »Q«
2016-02-17  2:54   ` [gentoo-dev] " Richard Yao
2016-02-17  6:37     ` Michał Górny
2016-02-17  8:17       ` Patrick Lauer
2016-02-17 10:23         ` Michał Górny
2016-02-17 13:29       ` Richard Yao
2016-02-08 16:18 ` Rich Freeman
2016-02-08 17:01   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2016-02-08 17:31     ` Brian Dolbec
2016-02-09  0:07     ` Rich Freeman
2016-02-09  1:15       ` Alex McWhirter
2016-02-09  7:43         ` waltdnes
2016-02-09 12:19           ` Daniel Campbell
2016-02-09  0:46   ` Daniel Campbell
2016-02-09  0:58     ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-02-09  3:09       ` Rich Freeman
2016-02-09  5:27         ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-02-09  9:03           ` Kent Fredric
2016-02-09 12:36             ` Daniel Campbell
2016-02-09 12:43               ` Rich Freeman
2016-02-09 19:10                 ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-02-14 15:14             ` Patrick Lauer
2016-02-14 16:00               ` Rich Freeman
2016-02-14 16:17                 ` Patrick Lauer
2016-02-14 19:41                 ` Brian Dolbec
2016-02-14 20:17                   ` Rich Freeman
2016-02-14 20:27                     ` Patrick Lauer
2016-02-14 20:32                       ` Rich Freeman
2016-02-14 20:23                   ` Mike Frysinger
2016-02-14 20:31                     ` Alon Bar-Lev
2016-02-14 20:34                       ` Rich Freeman
2016-02-14 20:34                       ` Mike Frysinger
2016-02-14 20:47                         ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-02-14 20:50                           ` Mike Frysinger
2016-02-15  1:34                             ` William Hubbs
2016-02-15  9:29                               ` Alexis Ballier
2016-02-15 10:01                                 ` Daniel Campbell
2016-02-15 12:11                                 ` Rich Freeman
2016-02-16 17:45                                   ` William Hubbs
2016-02-16 18:12                                     ` Alexis Ballier
2016-02-16 18:34                                       ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2016-02-16 18:35                                         ` William Hubbs
2016-02-16 18:53                                           ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn [this message]
2016-02-16 18:55                                             ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2016-02-16 19:14                                             ` Brian Dolbec
2016-02-16 22:03                                               ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2016-02-16 19:05                                         ` Alexis Ballier
2016-02-16 19:14                                           ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2016-02-16 19:33                                             ` Michał Górny
2016-02-16 19:57                                               ` Patrick Lauer
2016-02-16 20:05                                                 ` Rich Freeman
2016-02-16 20:26                                                   ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-02-16 20:51                                                     ` Brian Dolbec
2016-02-16 22:16                                                 ` Michał Górny
2016-02-16 22:56                                                   ` Alexis Ballier
2016-02-16 23:21                                                   ` Brian Dolbec
2016-02-17  4:09                                                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2016-02-16 20:07                                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Alexis Ballier
2016-02-16 22:16                                               ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2016-02-16 19:59                                             ` Alexis Ballier
2016-02-16 22:41                                               ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2016-02-17 12:43                                                 ` Michał Górny
2016-02-17 12:53                                                   ` Richard Yao
2016-02-17 12:58                                                     ` Michał Górny
2016-02-17 13:03                                                       ` Alexis Ballier
2016-02-17 13:39                                                       ` Richard Yao
2016-02-17 13:47                                                         ` Ben Kohler
2016-02-17 13:55                                                           ` Richard Yao
2016-02-17 14:01                                                             ` Ben Kohler
2016-02-17 14:41                                                               ` Richard Yao
2016-02-17 14:45                                                                 ` Richard Yao
2016-02-17 14:54                                                               ` brettrsears
2016-02-17 16:04                                                                 ` Richard Yao
2016-02-17 18:47                                                                   ` Rich Freeman
2016-02-18  2:57                                                                     ` Richard Yao
2016-02-17 13:09                                                   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2016-02-17 13:32                                                     ` Michał Górny
2016-02-17 13:38                                                       ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2016-02-17 13:42                                                         ` M. J. Everitt
2016-02-17 16:16                                                         ` Michał Górny
2016-02-17 18:12                                                           ` Richard Yao
2016-02-17 23:40                                                           ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2016-02-18  0:19                                                   ` Daniel Campbell
2016-02-16 20:09                                         ` Rich Freeman
2016-02-16 20:39                                           ` Alexis Ballier
2016-02-14 20:31                     ` Patrick Lauer
2016-02-14 20:39                       ` Mike Frysinger
2016-02-14 20:42                     ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-02-14 20:47                       ` Mike Frysinger
2016-02-14 20:56                         ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-02-15  1:29                           ` Alex McWhirter
2016-02-15  2:16                           ` Mike Frysinger
2016-02-15  2:31                             ` M. J. Everitt
2016-02-15  5:28                               ` Mike Frysinger
2016-02-15  5:54                                 ` M. J. Everitt
2016-02-15 12:13                     ` Francesco Riosa
2016-02-15 14:40                       ` Mike Frysinger
2016-02-16  1:05                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2016-02-09 11:59           ` [gentoo-dev] " Rich Freeman
2016-02-09 12:14             ` Anthony G. Basile
2016-02-09 12:39               ` Rich Freeman
2016-02-09 13:39                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2016-02-09 13:46                   ` Rich Freeman
2016-02-09 14:23                     ` Ulrich Mueller
2016-02-09 16:57                       ` William Hubbs
2016-02-09 17:28                         ` boot loader in @system, was " Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2016-02-09 17:24                   ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2016-02-09 23:48                 ` Dale
2016-02-09 18:25             ` Alon Bar-Lev
2016-02-09 18:38               ` Rich Freeman
2016-02-09  8:43         ` Kent Fredric
2016-02-09 12:17           ` Rich Freeman
2016-02-09 13:06             ` Daniel Campbell
2016-02-09 13:44               ` Rich Freeman
2016-02-09 14:44                 ` Daniel Campbell
2016-02-09 15:04                   ` Rich Freeman
2016-02-10  0:11                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2016-02-09 17:18                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Dolbec
2016-02-09 18:02                   ` Rubin
2016-02-09 18:29                   ` Rich Freeman
2016-02-09 23:47                     ` Daniel Campbell
2016-02-10  3:59                       ` waltdnes
2016-02-10  0:24                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2016-02-10 17:36                 ` [gentoo-dev] The Beauty of Unix Paul Varner
2016-02-10 17:58                   ` Rich Freeman
2016-02-10 19:30                     ` Gregory Woodbury
2016-02-10 19:51                       ` brettrsears
2016-02-09 13:13             ` [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider Francesco Riosa
2016-02-14 12:10             ` Patrick Lauer
2016-02-15 10:55               ` Lars Wendler
2016-02-09 16:33         ` Luca Barbato
2016-02-17  4:00         ` Richard Yao
2016-02-17 10:34           ` Michał Górny
2016-02-17 13:19             ` Richard Yao
2016-02-17 10:52           ` Alexis Ballier
2016-02-17 13:44             ` Richard Yao
2016-02-17 12:25           ` Rich Freeman
2016-02-17 12:58             ` Richard Yao
2016-02-08 18:12 ` William Hubbs
2016-02-08 19:37   ` Pacho Ramos
2016-02-09 19:02 ` Alexis Ballier
2016-02-17  2:42 ` Richard Yao
2016-02-26 12:31 ` Rich Freeman
2016-02-26 13:35   ` Alexis Ballier
2016-02-27 17:14   ` Rich Freeman
2016-03-01 18:17 ` Patrick Lauer

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