From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACBE138010 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2016 10:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7ED8321C008; Mon, 15 Feb 2016 10:01:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B65DE07FA for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2016 10:01:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-73-53-75-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.53.75.119]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zlg) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7BB2B3410BE for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2016 10:01:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <56B978C3.2020304@gentoo.org> <56C099EE.8020401@gentoo.org> <20160214114131.62b2deb8.dolsen@gentoo.org> <20160214202326.GE7732@vapier.lan> <20160214203454.GF7732@vapier.lan> <56C0E7E8.9090901@gentoo.org> <20160214205038.GI7732@vapier.lan> <56c12b45.aa22b60a.9e156.4fd5@mx.google.com> <20160215102900.1693a1de@gentoo.org> From: Daniel Campbell Message-ID: <56C1A20A.3060409@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 02:01:46 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160215102900.1693a1de@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 1b4ee605-1172-4e7a-8eb8-5ae691eb9b8e X-Archives-Hash: 7bc7375ba8b31a3d8a2237203a7a3726 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 02/15/2016 01:29 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 19:34:52 -0600 William Hubbs > wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 03:50:38PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: >>> On 14 Feb 2016 15:47, Anthony G. Basile wrote: >>>> On 2/14/16 3:34 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >>>>> the bring up of the daemon itself is not nearly as >>>>> important as the runtime interaction of people using >>>>> libudev or rules being executed. >>>> >>>> correct and i've been careful with libudev. >>>> >>>> anyhow, can we divert this away from udev/eudev. mike what >>>> do you recommend as the future of openrc once systemd-udev >>>> can no longer be extracted. >>> >>> if/when systemd-udev can't be extract anymore, then sys-fs/udev >>> is dead, and this whole thread is fairly moot. -mike >> >> +1. >> >> And, as for right now, udev-229 is in the tree, so udev can still >> be extracted and run standalone from systemd. > > and even with that, I don't think there is anything preventing > using systemd-udev from an openrc boot, is it ? (ie, have systemd > installed but booting with openrc) > systemd blocks both udev and eudev, since it includes systemd-udev. I don't know enough to tell you if the udev that ships with systemd is separated enough to act as a daemon with OpenRC, but package-wise it's a blocker. - -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D6 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJWwaIEAAoJEAEkDpRQOeFwDskP/0nwCQh71phL6Nc6F3EkTnzU JLIP3QOpqKXdtDYXJ/jG9+w746CKC3K/lR7IHuqvrWMVETXblwERbF9XGwUWMvmO nzFZ/K9pbNSQ+CiCqBGbs0HrXcXXjeosCf/sgl3FX3JIBgFordCS4t/WQMtmUbwF i2unx4BzAp+H0lJ8CuhmQj4cqTu3jaZkM+eRoXxniBM1ELZ3TZIYWu4T4OdjrCyb f77CNdm9sQTHFFhkYHf4unIdfwcfcin+x6vWYLmuQrBbuoqh9On4qAuQLjoZjjDk JlhUhHgVX5OzGCd8vW6aD7FJNmMLLONKmhpv8aZZrhUda3QPzMuzjZFtYFwxrn1N 81YOROGyWL5TK/cVzpUjU7qmYIkGv/NXMrv42zOxmUINQnX7h0ny2SWnJ1jboJZb isq2INnolrTTEV158eI1ij4usrxdLiDjKwCRoAVZP6eHWlKb/g2bFX5TjKrwiLfI exS8r+aWLVj2ytEZIm6Uf0UNdGjTC5MQSHCxz5d0zx0/KHsz6COIiPZHdcvXfPME dXuYVsmkdE/+4nFSvUPZ7w+eV0jFZB2C1X+at3l4I6a4itLxK/Sp/ydDXmAvlItQ zTdQORHbu3BW+dvbuTwafZVCVsiZQKUtWZexGGkgeyKjxm3svGyT4UVPE5euk5M4 yUH3T+1z6Z3LYGM/We4M =EuL7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----