From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C0F1384B4 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 21:54:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0349CE089E; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 21:54:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com (mail-ob0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05C88E086B for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 21:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obdgf3 with SMTP id gf3so42154729obd.3 for ; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 13:54:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UEowLssxkgder1ykJCaqlxBY+arLs4ygr6mAIZi/V9E=; b=vzG+lq+JewzDNprMOuSStrbxBoXni2XrzfNmDReu9nYscJxrL9098D4TH34XvJR8o8 gxAPEkU7Vhym4Z7i+VXBybQvO+41GC7qIIzpfUUzi2NSX0kC0TiJN4Est9D7yDN6x7vS ngNmQoyB78J7xgMjfiRzK6HnpI8dCzon7vIXJN0lh5G5XBjVgjSf15irBTwVBS3kI6MQ a0N8yK0xdOMavoQUKr7FNpV2DCXADZLawav5JgKIpdWS+sVPHLow0VJr6KmKoPVhpueb gwd4QMBeEMZb/+dW4+DoEg2+5ksz1HUFlruEBmxkE1oDsPGQufsoneICAwkky7kRnTwr zHNQ== X-Received: by 10.60.33.232 with SMTP id u8mr15750170oei.22.1446501272403; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 13:54:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-116-226.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.116.226]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k8sm9741978oia.10.2015.11.02.13.54.31 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 02 Nov 2015 13:54:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ChangeLog To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <5636029F.1020304@gentoo.org> <5636FDC6.80500@gmail.com> <5637C0D2.6070708@gmail.com> <20151102200921.72bea3bc@googlemail.com> From: Dale X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <5637DB96.9020903@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 15:54:30 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20151102200921.72bea3bc@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: b1e0aade-c37d-4572-b19f-0ad4d48e0ad4 X-Archives-Hash: 49edd271e68162372bf2194912e40e22 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 14:00:18 -0600 > Dale wrote: >> Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Dale wrote: >>>> Then perhaps all this should have been worked out BEFORE switching >>>> to github? >>> We didn't switch to github. >> Then why are people saying to use git to look at the logs? I don't >> want to use git. > git !=3D github... > >> I liked being able to go to the tree and look at the >> change logs when I needed to which is sometimes often. > I think you have a technology comprehension problem here, rather than a= > technology problem. The problem is your workflow, not the tools. > What I understand is this. The logs since github started being used are no longer updated like they used to be. I realize that git is a command but it seems that git gets its info from github since the logs are no longer downloaded when I sync the tree. It was really nice to be able to see those logs and be able to find out what changed especially if you want to hold off on a update that isn't important. Generally, the only way to know if it is important or not is to look at the logs and see why something is being changed. Also, I don't want to turn into Duncan and write a book to be sure that every specific detail is covered. I try to keep it short and basic.=20 If the problem is me not understanding the problem then why are others complaining about the missing logs too? If it was just me then I would be the only one complaining about them being no longer updated.=20 Obviously, it is not just me. Well, obvious to some but maybe not some others. We just want the logs back so we can see what is going on and for it to be easily available, preferably done with the sync like it used to be. The recent changes broke that and it needs to be fixed.=20 Dale :-) :-)=20