[gentoo-dev] www-apps/otrs: needs new maintainer

[gentoo-dev] www-apps/otrs: needs new maintainer

[Stefan G. Weichinger]

I contacted Robin <robbat2@gentoo.org> today asking for how to proceed
here, he told me to post here.

tl;dr ->

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506052

shows that

* the former dev has removed himself as maintainer

* the package is rather outdated now in portage

* there are some ebuilds already which could be considered to be added
(at least as unstable, sure)

pls advise,
thanks,
Stefan

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-apps/otrs: needs new maintainer

[Peter Stuge]

Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> * the former dev has removed himself as maintainer
> * the package is rather outdated now in portage
> * there are some ebuilds already which could be considered to be added
> (at least as unstable, sure)
> 
> pls advise,

If you have interest in this package then you can do one or more of:

* become a Gentoo developer (ha-ha)
* maintain the ebuild by proxy (find a Gentoo developer to proxy you)
* upload random patches to bugzilla
* git send-email to this mailing list
* git push pull-requests to github

I think some combination of 2, 3 and 4 seems to have best cost-to-benefit
ratio.


//Peter

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-apps/otrs: needs new maintainer

[hasufell]

On 09/15/2015 02:00 PM, Peter Stuge wrote:
> 
> If you have interest in this package then you can do one or more of:
> 
> * become a Gentoo developer (ha-ha)

hmm

> * maintain the ebuild by proxy (find a Gentoo developer to proxy you)

maybe, but not necessary for drive-by contributions

> * upload random patches to bugzilla

more bitrot please ;)

> * git send-email to this mailing list

likely just causes bikeshedding

> * git push pull-requests to github
> 

sounds like a good idea, until we maybe have our own review platform

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-apps/otrs: needs new maintainer

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 02:13:34PM +0200, hasufell wrote:
> On 09/15/2015 02:00 PM, Peter Stuge wrote:
> > If you have interest in this package then you can do one or more of:
> > * become a Gentoo developer (ha-ha)
> hmm
For background, SGW did work on becoming a developer once before, but he
mainly found he was short on time to handle more than the packages that
he had a business interest in.

I used to proxy-commit changes from him to the Amanda package, but found
myself short on time to test them as well in the long run.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] www-apps/otrs: needs new maintainer

[Rich Freeman]

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Robin H. Johnson <robbat2@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 02:13:34PM +0200, hasufell wrote:
>> On 09/15/2015 02:00 PM, Peter Stuge wrote:
>> > If you have interest in this package then you can do one or more of:
>> > * become a Gentoo developer (ha-ha)
>> hmm
> For background, SGW did work on becoming a developer once before, but he
> mainly found he was short on time to handle more than the packages that
> he had a business interest in.
>
> I used to proxy-commit changes from him to the Amanda package, but found
> myself short on time to test them as well in the long run.
>

To be constructive, a github pull-request is probably the most
effective way to get a proxy maintainer to notice your work right now
and commit it for you.  Bugs assigned to proxy-maintainers@ might also
work.  Believe it or not people will actually use ebuilds you attach
whether or not they get into the tree.  Another option is to publish
your own overlay, and that makes a good foundation for a pull-request
anyway and it is easy to use for those who do want to use the overlay
directly.

And do consider signing up as a proxied maintainer for a package
you're interested in.  If you do establish a long-term relationship
with a package it probably will make devs more willing to commit your
changes without a lot of testing on their part.

-- 
Rich

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-apps/otrs: needs new maintainer

[Stefan G. Weichinger]

Am 2015-09-16 um 02:37 schrieb Rich Freeman:
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Robin H. Johnson <robbat2@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 02:13:34PM +0200, hasufell wrote:
>>> On 09/15/2015 02:00 PM, Peter Stuge wrote:
>>>> If you have interest in this package then you can do one or more of:
>>>> * become a Gentoo developer (ha-ha)
>>> hmm
>> For background, SGW did work on becoming a developer once before, but he
>> mainly found he was short on time to handle more than the packages that
>> he had a business interest in.
>>
>> I used to proxy-commit changes from him to the Amanda package, but found
>> myself short on time to test them as well in the long run.
>>
> 
> To be constructive, a github pull-request is probably the most
> effective way to get a proxy maintainer to notice your work right now
> and commit it for you.  Bugs assigned to proxy-maintainers@ might also
> work.  Believe it or not people will actually use ebuilds you attach
> whether or not they get into the tree.  Another option is to publish
> your own overlay, and that makes a good foundation for a pull-request
> anyway and it is easy to use for those who do want to use the overlay
> directly.

Well, my ebuilds for www-apps/otrs are in here already:

https://github.com/stefangweichinger/gentoo-overlay/tree/master/www-apps/otrs

(the other packages in that overlay aren't that up to date ... simply
some work collected over the years)

I only added beta4 yesterday.

> And do consider signing up as a proxied maintainer for a package
> you're interested in.  If you do establish a long-term relationship
> with a package it probably will make devs more willing to commit your
> changes without a lot of testing on their part.

I may do that if something gets moving around this package, yes.
Where would I have to sign up?

I am a proxied maintainer for app-backup/amanda already, as Robin mentioned.

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-apps/otrs: needs new maintainer

[Stefan G. Weichinger]

On 16.09.2015 09:15, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:

> Well, my ebuilds for www-apps/otrs are in here already:
> 
> https://github.com/stefangweichinger/gentoo-overlay/tree/master/www-apps/otrs
> 
> (the other packages in that overlay aren't that up to date ... simply
> some work collected over the years)
> 
> I only added beta4 yesterday.
> 
>> And do consider signing up as a proxied maintainer for a package
>> you're interested in.  If you do establish a long-term relationship
>> with a package it probably will make devs more willing to commit your
>> changes without a lot of testing on their part.
> 
> I may do that if something gets moving around this package, yes.
> Where would I have to sign up?
> 
> I am a proxied maintainer for app-backup/amanda already, as Robin mentioned.

maybe I misunderstand something, maybe I need some more explicit
instructions here.

pls advise