From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CCCF138454 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 2015 04:45:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E01A21C005; Sat, 12 Sep 2015 04:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yk0-f181.google.com (mail-yk0-f181.google.com [209.85.160.181]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BD85E07F7 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 2015 04:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ykdt18 with SMTP id t18so90443429ykd.3 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 21:45:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8wIcoQ49pHJqyQIaZij/yt+P0DpbbnGMlCpFMuUDs9M=; b=HFeokzhXT/gE04PJm0jZPP00XtJloXXe7L2TxokUcg02wpHeS7G9Hi1q181gR/K5WR +qylyJCpgW6aaHvkFuYv6CMCNYVKkLkOhqPNv+gz1fVp/zYJCC/9z1VcjNEEeo1xxrJ6 c6CvdfwXTo0KskFeSCPxjwwbl6GN1MI2Bjyf799R8Chyg6WhxB3p1cbO++u8HuTqFWG/ pA5Zujj/GaeRJJn2HV50Q9vjCz0wLl17njuKObkuILvI1DsSas8ueYE1smQ9ccFbwicQ rEuS9eb1cIZH3BxgUsV+Yn2MlvVussYMZYv9jS4NWyMEWogof1YE3XsaOO5oa2kVwiBl U05w== X-Received: by 10.13.220.131 with SMTP id f125mr2498490ywe.65.1442033144502; Fri, 11 Sep 2015 21:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-115-33.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.115.33]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h205sm2476533ywc.2.2015.09.11.21.45.43 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 11 Sep 2015 21:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55F3ADF6.90902@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 23:45:42 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: USE="gui" References: <55EFDDAD.9030502@gentoo.org> <55EFDEC7.1070403@gentoo.org> <55F00BFD.7050804@gentoo.org> <55F12159.3020506@gentoo.org> <55F1439E.1070002@gentoo.org> <55F1C8AB.40005@gentoo.org> <55F1CA38.3050302@gentoo.org> <55F298D0.7020702@gentoo.org> <55F3178F.8070104@gentoo.org> <55F33ABC.4070509@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 37daa6d4-509d-4a6a-b1c1-0674688bdaee X-Archives-Hash: 6d378065b613b1860e2a039457d7fda8 Duncan wrote: > hasufell posted on Fri, 11 Sep 2015 22:34:04 +0200 as excerpted: > >> USE flags in gentoo are the best and the worst thing at the same time. >> They are also mostly the main reason people don't like gentoo, because >> USE flags are (for todays situation) pretty much not an appropriate >> pattern to reflect real-world configuration. To be more precise... USE >> flags are first-class citizens and there is only one layer of them. > I agree with the one-layer problem, but just to say, without something > like USE flags, despite their single-layer-problem, I'd not be using > gentoo. Perhaps better can be done, but in the absence of better at the > moment, for better or worse, USE flags do get the job done, and I'd hate > to be without either them or an at least equally (if not more) powerful > replacement. > +1 If there is not some way to disable/enable things, there is little point is using Gentoo. Actually, Gentoo loses something huge that makes Gentoo different. Besides, how would you tell a package how and what to compile without USE flags?? Dale :-) :-)