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From: hasufell <hasufell@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium gtk3 support
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 14:53:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55F17D51.1040500@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_njZ-o7B_W-87KFh_LYZ-J4zKmQLw5SLEi-rzVQpy6YQw@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/10/2015 02:44 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:33 AM, hasufell <hasufell@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>
>> So this makes no sense, since it's already an unsupported corner case.
> 
> Just what use of Gentoo do you not consider an unsupported corner
> case, which isn't already better supported by some other distro?
> 
> The whole point of using Gentoo is having "support" for all those
> "unsupported corner cases."  If you just want everything to support
> doing things in the one way which is most supportable, you're
> basically doing a really bad job at re-inventing Debian.
> 
> I use quotes around support since all support on Gentoo is
> best-effort, and that is all I'm getting at here.  If a package
> maintainer can support multiple configurations and are willing to do
> so, they should be encouraged to do so.
> 

So we are breaking consistency and introduce maintenance and
configuration complexity, because we want to support a corner case that
isn't consistently supported anyway and will not be (because that's what
the gnome team said and most upstream maintainers do).

You'd actually have to start forking upstream projects if you are
serious about this. Everything else is just fighting the deprecation,
which will come anyway.

I think a lot of people just go wild when they see configure switches
and stuff everything into USE flags without really considering the
impact or the usefulness.

It's not all about choice, it's also about sanity.


  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-10 12:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-09  7:20 [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium gtk3 support Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
2015-09-09  7:24 ` Daniel Campbell
2015-09-09  8:52   ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-09-09 10:37   ` hasufell
2015-09-09 13:17     ` Brian Dolbec
2015-09-09 13:31       ` hasufell
2015-09-10  6:21     ` Daniel Campbell
2015-09-10  8:47       ` hasufell
2015-09-10 10:45         ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 10:50           ` hasufell
2015-09-10 12:03             ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 12:13               ` hasufell
2015-09-10 12:25                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 12:33                   ` hasufell
2015-09-10 12:44                     ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 12:53                       ` hasufell [this message]
2015-09-10 13:10                         ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 15:35                           ` hasufell
2015-09-10 15:41                             ` Alec Warner
2015-09-10 15:50                               ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 16:50                               ` hasufell
2015-09-10 16:51                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2015-09-10 13:38                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Alan McKinnon
2015-09-10 12:46                     ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2015-09-10 13:07                       ` Michał Górny
2015-09-10 13:20                         ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 14:31                         ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2015-09-10 15:38                           ` Alec Warner
2015-09-10 16:37                             ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2015-09-10 16:57                           ` hasufell
2015-09-10 17:17                             ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 18:05                               ` hasufell
2015-09-10 18:22                                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 18:30                                 ` Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
2015-09-10 17:43                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2015-09-10 19:04                               ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2015-09-10 18:50                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2015-09-10 16:24                         ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2015-09-10 16:50                           ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2015-09-10 12:47                     ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-09-10 16:21         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2015-09-10 18:15         ` [gentoo-dev] " Daniel Campbell
2015-09-10 18:21           ` hasufell
2015-09-10 18:26             ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-11  9:03               ` Daniel Campbell
2015-09-11 12:13                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-11 17:11                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2015-09-11 17:41                     ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-11 18:03                       ` [gentoo-dev] USE="gui" Ian Stakenvicius
2015-09-11 18:16                         ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-11 20:34                         ` hasufell
2015-09-11 23:52                           ` Daniel Campbell
2015-09-12 11:47                             ` hasufell
2015-09-12  2:29                           ` [gentoo-dev] USE="gui" Duncan
2015-09-12  4:45                             ` Dale
2015-09-12  2:24                         ` Duncan
2015-09-12  4:55                   ` [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium gtk3 support Raymond Jennings
2015-09-12 10:00                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2015-09-12 10:48                       ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-13  5:07                         ` Duncan
2015-09-12 10:04                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Rich Freeman
2015-09-09 10:06 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: firefox gtk3 status, danger of gtk2 in-tree deprecation? (was: www-client/chromium gtk3 support) Duncan
2015-09-09 15:12   ` »Q«
2015-09-10  2:23     ` Duncan
2015-09-09 15:32   ` [gentoo-dev] Re: firefox gtk3 status, danger of gtk2 in-tree deprecation? Ian Stakenvicius
2015-09-10  2:02     ` Duncan
2015-09-09 13:47 ` [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium gtk3 support Alexandre Rostovtsev
2015-09-10  6:28   ` Daniel Campbell
2015-09-09 15:00 ` Mike Gilbert
2015-09-09 15:10   ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2015-09-09 15:16     ` Alec Warner
2015-09-09 15:40       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2015-09-09 15:48         ` hasufell
2015-09-09 16:14           ` Ian Stakenvicius
2015-09-09 16:36             ` hasufell
2015-09-09 18:17           ` Paweł Hajdan, Jr.

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