From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9B01397F2 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 15:10:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 159B61419A; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 15:10:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35CB5E0872 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 15:10:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2a02:908:b30:55a0:96de:80ff:fe6b:ddcc] (unknown [IPv6:2a02:908:b30:55a0:96de:80ff:fe6b:ddcc]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: hasufell) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BA5973406F1 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 15:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] games.eclass To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20150820194244.622b8f86.mgorny@gentoo.org> <55D6524C.7020201@gentoo.org> <21974.51794.830903.356097@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> From: hasufell X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <55D73F52.9030402@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 17:10:10 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <21974.51794.830903.356097@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 2146508e-c2ba-4ee6-b587-b15a9a10463d X-Archives-Hash: b9d5564860687e5baa3c2c3703a3b974 On 08/21/2015 08:50 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2015, hasufell wrote: > >> Like allowing that devs may or may not use games.eclass, so that >> users cannot expect consistent behavior for games anymore? > > Sorry, but that is not accurate. Usage of games.eclass has been > deprecated by QA [1] (with the council's mandate [2]), so devs should > not use it any longer. > > Maybe QA should be stricter in enforcing its policies, in order to > avoid such false impressions in future? > > Ulrich > > [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Quality_Assurance/Meeting_Summaries#Games_team_policies_issue > [2] https://projects.gentoo.org/council/meeting-logs/20140812-summary.txt > May I remind you that """ - Motion: "The council encourages the games team to accept join requests and elect a lead. In the event they don't elect a lead within 6 weeks, we will consider the team as dysfunctional and thus disband it." Accepted with 6 yes votes and 1 abstention. """ has never happened? There has been no vote, but the team has not been considered dysfunctional. Instead we are just acting like it doesn't exist, more or less. Sounds good? It seems, that QA is currently an "intermediate games project policy team". Is that its job? I don't think so. Maybe QA should have _less_ power.