From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41522138CCF for ; Mon, 11 May 2015 19:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 86FE5E08E8; Mon, 11 May 2015 19:35:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73D60E08E0 for ; Mon, 11 May 2015 19:35:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.144.0.7] (host-37-191-220-247.lynet.no [37.191.220.247]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: k_f) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 03F84340922 for ; Mon, 11 May 2015 19:35:43 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5551048C.6080409@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 21:35:40 +0200 From: Kristian Fiskerstrand User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Anti-spam changes: proposal to drop spammy mail References: <20150511072901.GB15066@angelfall> <555103A7.9030405@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <555103A7.9030405@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 1f7dca09-5fbc-446a-886a-caa4e8ec64e2 X-Archives-Hash: 02e6f07fa7fba4d7d2cfaed98d957759 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 05/11/2015 09:31 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 05/11/2015 03:29 AM, Eray Aslan wrote: >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 04:26:01AM +0000, Robin H. Johnson >> wrote: >>> TL;DR: As of May 17, @gentoo.org will drop incoming spammy mail >>> instead of delivering it. Speak now or hold your peace. >> >> Believe me I understand your pain. Been there done that. >> However, dropping mail is never a good idea. You are mucking >> with the dependebility of the email. > > Agreed. > > Is there some reason a pre-queue filter (with amavisd-new) > wouldn't work? Then we could reject the spammy messages (at SMTP > time) instead of silently dropping them. > > Could it be an alternative to move the messages flagged as spam into an own folder that isn't forwarded? at least that means it doesn't impact operations for those using it locally and the mail is still around, if a webmail interface or something was used it could be accessed through that for the forwarding users. - -- Kristian Fiskerstrand Public PGP key 0xE3EDFAE3 at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJVUQSHAAoJEP7VAChXwav6nYUH/RI8LsL3/xEFgZXXlVy0ULXI vprolO9hApBgn5gAsUld9+LXCNe/oHDlAVd7TE2AnfHmsIG7yHyC2oZyl76X1xk9 /8bztTuJRhXuKo3jt3UO+Nx8HP/BfVv0CdyJ4RrunPt5qG8o6DpNTkD8Y2KPhdFU clnqzllt/2vk15eB4IFjL9U/s8ZMeCI+S36tFPpS8XBXQEbwhMxZ127XyoaXKwBq q+eH4uTZw1piggOo/JeiEpDUPqn27Jvoth7cYzyS0vnfUkPKpHbYglnT7zz1fNZ+ +FfGyazMSzPS9hICYyTvNyhS4Ya8o25Ep0xoEZC4TUSg/4JMrUqwNUBaZNzxwaM= =HwhU -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----