From: "Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov" <gentoo@mva.name>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Reverse use of Python/Ruby versions
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 03:11:08 +0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5519204.nIdx5QMEc9@note> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <assp.0273d87ab0.20170410141210.48be6e45@o-sinc.com>
> painless option for users.
Well... If a bit of mind work is pain... So, then I'd say that Gentoo is not
about avoiding such pain.
Did you hear about Gentoo Philosophy?
It says that point of Gentoo to appear was to give users possibility to make
exact "tool" they wants to use, but not decide anything for them.
So, if a person wants to avoid thinking about some aspect of the system
maintenance, then Gentoo is not recommended for this person and the person
should consider to use some distro made by "Big Fat Corporations" (like
Ubuntu, Fedora/RHEL, SuSE and whatever). They're very like to dictate what and
how should user do, and what should not. And there is all that things already
decided by BigBro's and users should not take care of any of that.
I can't understand people who refuse to get as complete knowledge as possible
about tools/instruments they using (including OS).
Would you learn how does a hammer work before applying it to the nails? Or do
you say "The only painless option for users is to make it spheric" instead?
And same for Gentoo: if you want to use something — please, consider to get a
bit knowledge about how do it working. And it will be huge karma bonus for
you, if you'll research the reasons why did it done in that way, and not
another before complaining (why did wheels invented to be round, but not
square? Square wheels are more stable on a flat surface, while round ones
makes wagon to constantly move, while I loading my baggage on it).
I mean: most of the time, if you having trouble with something, it is most
likely *you* (not you personally, but some abastract Freud-ish "you") doing
something wrong, then the tool you're using is badly designed. And if you
dislike the tool's design, you're free to take analogous tool from the rivals
(and take that one you'd like).
Thanks for attention,
wbr, mva
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2017-04-09 16:15 [gentoo-dev] Reverse use of Python/Ruby versions William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-09 21:36 ` Francesco Riosa
2017-04-09 22:20 ` Brian Dolbec
2017-04-09 22:48 ` Francesco Riosa
2017-04-09 23:15 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-09 23:59 ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-04-10 0:37 ` Francesco Riosa
2017-04-10 0:58 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 14:57 ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-04-10 15:49 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-09 21:44 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-04-09 22:28 ` Francesco Riosa
2017-04-09 23:08 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-09 21:52 ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-04-09 22:34 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-09 22:42 ` Francesco Riosa
2017-04-09 23:04 ` James Le Cuirot
2017-04-10 5:33 ` Hans de Graaff
2017-04-10 1:38 ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-10 2:04 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 4:35 ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-10 15:52 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 21:30 ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-10 17:58 ` Christopher Head
2017-04-10 18:12 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:11 ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov [this message]
2017-04-20 17:49 ` Christopher Head
2017-04-20 18:23 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-21 12:53 ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-10 19:40 ` Alan McKinnon
2017-04-10 6:37 ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 13:21 ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2017-04-10 17:50 ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 16:03 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 17:14 ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 17:49 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 18:10 ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 18:44 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 18:57 ` Mart Raudsepp
2017-04-10 19:38 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 19:51 ` Mart Raudsepp
2017-04-10 20:01 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:17 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:32 ` Mart Raudsepp
2017-04-10 20:21 ` Mart Raudsepp
2017-04-10 20:33 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:43 ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 21:33 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 21:44 ` Mart Raudsepp
2017-04-10 22:51 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 21:56 ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 22:42 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 22:09 ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-10 22:35 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 22:56 ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-10 23:04 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 19:31 ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2017-04-10 19:38 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2017-04-10 19:57 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:29 ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2017-04-10 20:40 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:48 ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2017-04-10 21:27 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:51 ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 21:18 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 21:33 ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 21:58 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-11 4:48 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2017-04-11 17:47 ` James Potts
2017-04-11 21:02 ` Michał Górny
2017-04-10 21:17 ` [gentoo-dev] " Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2017-04-10 21:25 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 22:22 ` Kent Fredric
2017-04-10 19:49 ` [gentoo-dev] No Java Team, Java neglect was -> " William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:04 ` Rich Freeman
2017-04-10 20:15 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 20:58 ` Rich Freeman
2017-04-10 21:21 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-10 21:31 ` Rich Freeman
2017-04-10 21:54 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-11 9:18 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-04-11 15:22 ` [gentoo-dev] OT Getting to know others in Gentoo was -> " William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-11 15:57 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-04-11 22:23 ` [gentoo-dev] " Viktar Patotski
2017-04-12 7:25 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-04-10 21:48 ` [gentoo-dev] " Kent Fredric
2017-04-10 20:26 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-04-25 9:16 ` Sergey Popov
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