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[89.208.21.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dq2sm4470236lbc.12.2014.08.08.06.12.28 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Aug 2014 06:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53e4ccbd.c2b4700a.3bec.2414@mx.google.com> X-Google-Original-Message-ID: <296434747.20140808171227@gmail.com>> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 17:12:27 +0400 From: Igor <lanthruster@gmail.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-dev] minimalistic emerge Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------0D01A5156298F6921" X-Archives-Salt: 0099701f-7c42-4d4a-94a4-416a4af2a496 X-Archives-Hash: e83214bcb1af043c63e7807a26a7c8bc ------------0D01A5156298F6921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, About 60% of all the packages are installed and work with nodep flag=20 without any problems for years. Most of the maintainers just depend on new= =20 packages not knowing if it's necessary or not resulting in a really HUGE=20 update that in the absolute majority of cases destabilize GENTOO making it= =20 not operational and WORSE than it was before. You then STABILIZE it again= =20 spending hours and then the story repeats itself. Experience show that out of 20 new dependencies pulled by=20 emerge only 1 is critical and really needed to assemble the target. Is there any option in emerge to pull MINIMUM packages to=20 get the result - install the application you need, leaving everything else= =20 AS IS untouched and stable? I would rather prefer and many would agree to use this kind of=20 install instead of a full system update by default. Is there any USE flag that can switch system to this kind of update instead of conventional? If no such USE flag, what about stabilize gentoo with=20 STABILIZED flag implementation in make.conf? Whoever needs everything new - can continue fighting with nature, the rest of us who has a limited life span - well, they might go for=20 STABILIZED flag and live happily ever after.=20 What do you think? --=20 Best regards, Igor mailto:lanthruster@gmail.com ------------0D01A5156298F6921 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head><title>minimalistic emerge</title> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dwindows-125= 1"> </head> <body> <span style=3D" font-family:'Courier New'; font-size: 10pt;">Hi,<br> <br> About 60% of all the packages are installed and work with nodep flag <= br> without any problems for years. Most of the maintainers just depend on new&= nbsp;<br> packages not knowing if it's necessary or not resulting in a really HUGE&nb= sp;<br> update that in the absolute majority of cases destabilize GENTOO making it&= nbsp;<br> not operational and WORSE than it was before. You then STABILIZE it again&n= bsp;<br> spending hours and then the story repeats itself.<br> <br> Experience show that out of 20 new dependencies pulled by <br> emerge only 1 is critical and really needed to assemble the target.<br> <br> Is there any option in emerge to pull MINIMUM packages to <br> get the result - install the application you need, leaving everything else&= nbsp;<br> AS IS untouched and stable?<br> <br> I would rather prefer and many would agree to use this kind of <br> install instead of a full system update by default.<br> <br> Is there any USE flag that can switch system to this kind of update instead= <br> of conventional? If no such USE flag, what about stabilize gentoo with = ;<br> STABILIZED flag implementation in make.conf?<br> <br> Whoever needs everything new - can continue fighting with nature,<br> the rest of us who has a limited life span - well, they might go for <= br> STABILIZED flag and live happily ever after. <br> <br> What do you think?<br> <br> <br> <span style=3D" font-family:'arial'; font-size: 8pt; color: #c0c0c0;"><i>--= <br> Best regards,<br> Igor &= nbsp; </i></span></span><a style=3D" font-family:'arial= ';" href=3D"mailto:lanthruster@gmail.com">mailto:lanthruster@gmail.com</a><= /body></html> ------------0D01A5156298F6921--