From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925C113877A for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 11:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 902B1E0EFA; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 11:55:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1D36E0E8E for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 11:55:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from phjr-macbookpro.local (87-205-244-98.adsl.inetia.pl [87.205.244.98]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: phajdan.jr) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 64F9F33F922 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 11:55:39 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <53D4E893.2090804@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 13:54:59 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?IlBhd2XFgiBIYWpkYW4sIEpyLiI=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: don't rely on dynamic deps References: <53CD6BED.10603@gentoo.org> <201407212153.04605.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <20140721205527.142cb3d5@googlemail.com> <1405976767.1013.9.camel@gentoo.org> <53CE6CED.1060300@gentoo.org> <20140723004441.2e68c0b0@gentoo.org> <53D26D58.3000004@gentoo.org> <53D27343.6020009@gentoo.org> <20140726134907.621d8892@googlemail.com> <53D4E5A0.2020403@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <53D4E5A0.2020403@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ATLFdKwDkQcWvL1GiSUoSeTxuVFm47NeS" X-Archives-Salt: d25dd812-5fe2-4340-b1d4-c10b225dbd62 X-Archives-Hash: 2ef7a0a1249b6f79e1ac7c28d41d10be This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --ATLFdKwDkQcWvL1GiSUoSeTxuVFm47NeS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 7/27/14, 1:42 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > Only one person said he had to manually build 2 GNOME related packages,= > simple-scan and something else >=20 > So, broken? Far from it. More like essential feature. >=20 > People have just listed some known races dynamic deps have, and I take > those races anyday over an regression that causes > endless rebuilding... I think this really boils down to deciding on the tradeoff between correctness and speed. Even the example above shows that with dynamic rebuilds some manual rebuilds were needed, which I interpret as dynamic deps not being correct= =2E Static deps go the other way around: they do lead to more rebuilds, and I think no one is denying that. However, they seem more predictable to me= =2E Pawe=C5=82 --ATLFdKwDkQcWvL1GiSUoSeTxuVFm47NeS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.22 (Darwin) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT1OiwAAoJEE8aJVXqcZkda64QALp9a6DN1ng3lUh2TrcGelmZ CPY4aLdzetc7Ny4FW4BS4Ig3hCx2FEZCkjm3Uk8IbLyiCdMI9rbvplmdW2A7PvOA AWIAhigJ2KEc9oZuudOk39bJNuhrDkeSLNB0ERLG6N2o5/guJrEm2iteKjfQTaoH ID2gtjKgayDW2wIoss71DME0MOPeXk8xgZtZbpSL5HIQXzm9SK9PGC9Ov2x+ewCg Xk1FdEvn2OXK8LKAAg0XavTzI5Q3bYMWjP1LDmnKxArNyoQFa5IblSjoRvRoABbX vaHe7wH1zOllhpBQdph/yOSuajqKH4RMw1+BIEhPQh7vjU7wOLqIq9b3VYp6hp86 idVoPxY0SHpyTO62o3ITY4bfZZQAUMULb2vFu9HHjwA6h8o4gDk6RvRKuEwUaxnm 5BsD7HS6DXfsaFOD1ogk0kS6K+nOsOhtYyMVe+EwhnAebdbdE+lhQXF7c/mzvcNF crCiyQ0iA+5w+tVYtAdidFFfauhaJQMAUmov3+feeBKZlpNCOj0p9DIKyjn+njPc U5zkCEAu8YXCV7eifUBPmZHT7YT1zp0QRppNkLNvh+Igvbo5Uj+i7PzbViLntGgy RNcc4Jk7/FeqmkK8TrE+NCwGEU5j9eQFM9W9VJedZ4yZ7O0mBb5OEllZIXRwt47X lZqYOvAnlY8qSQ0DJZfG =9JIM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ATLFdKwDkQcWvL1GiSUoSeTxuVFm47NeS--