From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0BF13877A for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 11:42:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 26DB8E0F3F; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 11:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3EC38E0F30 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 11:42:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (mobile-internet-5d6a80-173.dhcp.inet.fi [93.106.128.173]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ssuominen) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B1787340001 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 11:42:41 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <53D4E5A0.2020403@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 14:42:24 +0300 From: Samuli Suominen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.7.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: don't rely on dynamic deps References: <53CD6BED.10603@gentoo.org> <201407212153.04605.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <20140721205527.142cb3d5@googlemail.com> <1405976767.1013.9.camel@gentoo.org> <53CE6CED.1060300@gentoo.org> <20140723004441.2e68c0b0@gentoo.org> <53D26D58.3000004@gentoo.org> <53D27343.6020009@gentoo.org> <20140726134907.621d8892@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <20140726134907.621d8892@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 7c41a629-5020-47a3-bc95-93cd0f4af078 X-Archives-Hash: 9bd6e9ad20b79f17c7a0f16d380ca6d6 On 26/07/14 15:49, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 12:41:16 +0000 (UTC) > Martin Vaeth wrote: >> hasufell wrote: >>> Dynamics deps are already broken, not consistently enabled (e.g. >>> when subslots are in use) >> Just to make it clear: No, dynamic deps are not broken. > Yes they are. We just succesfully converted ~300 ebuilds in tree without revision bumps from virtual/udev[gudev,introspection,static-libs] to virtual/libudev and virtual/libgudev Tested it on multiple boxes, went fine. Nobody has filed bugs at http://bugs.gentoo.org/, nobody has filed a single forums post, nobody has said anything at #gentoo, Freenode Only one person said he had to manually build 2 GNOME related packages, simple-scan and something else So, broken? Far from it. More like essential feature. People have just listed some known races dynamic deps have, and I take those races anyday over an regression that causes endless rebuilding... - Samuli