From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9347E13877A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 08:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 21396E0B93; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 08:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-f44.google.com (mail-la0-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 156B5E0B65 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 08:33:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id e16so5633526lan.17 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 01:33:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5+cSKMRUoQiQ01K4YzKD+RKNvE5/jK6nxXxUY7sksSk=; b=cpcAuWR12PxPda9jnXCr33o/ZdPbGkVS7q483eK/UeRrVrTqd9MnMh6ZyH4BGe0/qa txBL7tJZK6pVCM940BJ7dwGSHA9adA/qRKk2Nkd5M4ehOy+b9RInhUyl87iHU9E906fn hniTcvSKnf3yaSVEp8jTYmV7RpO/l6dx8/IVBpGKpFHeUKkfUbODwaI/6PCMbJwiOgwL eH6lwJIfhntaa0LBg9LZ4EQHquuYVBEwi1ooL2hLuEEzceIifSxYX8xdORDdw9B/5G67 D5zGIFEhS3ywQ3s3WLzEhUvSFVfnxxfJjw4VIV3hGBPCd31S8jTVIZdrf85VrIf9ipRR P5ug== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn05pWueABB/kO0+HepdCYMgTo934olK0VBilyO7RexRm4BwSyeDjJis8Mgnl4zJLMFt1Sn X-Received: by 10.112.147.41 with SMTP id th9mr30397713lbb.12.1406018016096; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 01:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.145.10] (cm-84.215.15.221.getinternet.no. [84.215.15.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id xm1sm29574960lbb.15.2014.07.22.01.33.34 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 22 Jul 2014 01:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53CE219B.8030400@sumptuouscapital.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 10:32:27 +0200 From: Kristian Fiskerstrand User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: don't rely on dynamic deps References: <53CD6BED.10603@gentoo.org> <53CD8BBA.2010605@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 409e54c9-f09c-4710-be63-67e8681ffeb9 X-Archives-Hash: a08d910612e80211d34a2231cae96a5a -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 07/22/2014 10:21 AM, Michael Palimaka wrote: > On 07/22/2014 07:52 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: >> >> To sum up: My vote is disable dynamic-deps. And I would be happy >> to apply a patch that does this with the information I have >> today. > > What a great way to kill the distro. > > I can already heat my house with the number of unnecessary rebuilds > - I can't imagine how many people will be left once we have to > needlessly rebuild libreoffice and half the tree every time someone > makes some minor change. If developers can't revbump correctly to > address the shortcomings of dynamic deps, why do we expect they > will be able to do so for static deps? > I find it somewhat curious that the difference between ~arch and stable hasn't been brought up in this discussion yet. IMHO a user on ~arch should expect a higher number of rebuilds, it _is_ after all testing, whereby at the point it reaches stable, the deps are hopefully more likely to be correct to begin with. Does anyone have any insight into where these changes most often occur? - -- - ---------------------------- Kristian Fiskerstrand Blog: http://blog.sumptuouscapital.com Twitter: @krifisk - ---------------------------- Public PGP key 0xE3EDFAE3 at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 - ---------------------------- Ad astra per aspera To the stars through thorns -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTziGbAAoJEPw7F94F4Tag61QP/iznpmFoc2jKO1Ex8fHEFURA 8D6mgzmkBW2OYWux8JnSfmS7WBrXvs0869Ey/dTgQeMWsdaauhFSqGUTL8k2s3pD 2NZUiNM9fBDGrVR589r0EX5jpPoylsq+ViYc/GtsWfUx8QZGRQOs75ecIB3G5dfS eg15r/UI7Q5/vQv93s49Wl3EKWR8peqf46nsluXLMLZff80I6S2T0wGTZP9lMHd7 62Lwo4MxQEm+0XBqVNiY438qaF9eZBR8W14BPUwn2VWD0tL8CtNLiHZwLAAnYZrs FE4mgAFUQu+cmJow4DAPkOxMqiqFHLlyh2wVKkxNVTp4fwYdLLeQZWLVLqF3Z7BR cx75ocKCZmxcKqPA6gYj0hcl1W8uj7WyAwIOcYTzBBFf0eSaBzErtZ1WS7GVM/7z 1cauEo7DsDjiW2THZDkSy/zLn/O9XxRwMddqT7rT7IxDiy+V0n6AW4WD7mA/sAkd YfEnQmZARF0hK7msiy88ScBK73NpmAmU04kVoIV1IUaKNjaahWi4sk8MDKbV/V7z qnXvbQEejH9O9FbsY0ugWB6TL1imyfE3Va+Z63/nF3GFtO+XwJ3fqpT0VbDR3YBL sYXNQ9CHRBoemIOaCLLGPJbkwAALS2/gt9aVsxHLE75efvuGAqj2Qa9g8Paj5WBH Pq8eqnjDYOX02BBjSzSr =sYA4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----