From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26CEC13877A for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2014 19:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7ED71E0ACA; Wed, 16 Jul 2014 19:28:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83A2DE0956 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2014 19:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.160] (CPE002401f30b73-CM78cd8ec1b205.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.224.181.112]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: axs) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49E9133FF3A for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2014 19:28:24 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <53C6D24D.40507@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 15:28:13 -0400 From: Ian Stakenvicius User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: last rites: games-fps/postal2mp-demo References: <53BB07C1.8090801@gentoo.org> <53BC12E2.6030002@gentoo.org> <21446.37158.790000.421879@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <53C6A669.4020806@exherbo.org> <53C6C2E1.1040006@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 5c8b6482-d40b-4b69-801d-acaec77de954 X-Archives-Hash: b1cd151dfbd5ff92887c5b50e3c7d6d6 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 16/07/14 03:19 PM, Denis Dupeyron wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Alexander Berntsen > wrote: >> Ulrich is right. Abandonware just means orphaned works -- i.e. >> the copyright holder hasn't sued anyone yet. Gentoo should not >> have anything to do with this. > > I agree with you and Ulrich. That was a very poor choice of word > from my part and not what I wanted to say. I didn't mean we should > distribute distfiles without consent, but back them up to a hidden > place while it is possible to do so. Obtaining consent to mirror > updates or linux specific files of a commercial game which is not > distributed anymore when asking politely isn't unseen, because > often the editor or publisher doesn't care any longer. If you don't > backup the files first there is little chance you will get them > from the editor exactly because they don't care. > > Denis. > So, RESTRICT="mirror" would turn into RESTRICT="officially-dont-mirror-but-actually-do-just-in-case-distfiles-are-dropped-upstream-but-after-we-still-cant-officially-mirror-them-due-to-license-and-copyright-infringement-anyway" ? Pretty sure, no matter what, we aren't going to be allowed to host these distfiles, even if the upstream host disappears, even if the company goes under. If we can't get permission to officially mirror the files then the company is active and alive, i don't see how it's likely to get permission after the distfiles/server/company goes away. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlPG0k0ACgkQ2ugaI38ACPD7wAD/VZYn8/G19jgFOjuoa6z4b9i1 m5AcXxuNUOT1Pbf5UlUBAK3yhWv5TZMOv0vi73Ttz6B9aqGXTPgpKDaSSyvXdKIs =r+ZF -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----