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From: Ian Stakenvicius <axs@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: last rites: games-fps/postal2mp-demo
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 15:28:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53C6D24D.40507@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+CSuAKWGfr2uTEnvtuE3g9-937VwNg02-Nxzs3Qw=QXXHMk+w@mail.gmail.com>

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On 16/07/14 03:19 PM, Denis Dupeyron wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Alexander Berntsen 
> <bernalex@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> Ulrich is right. Abandonware just means orphaned works -- i.e.
>> the copyright holder hasn't sued anyone yet. Gentoo should not
>> have anything to do with this.
> 
> I agree with you and Ulrich. That was a very poor choice of word
> from my part and not what I wanted to say. I didn't mean we should 
> distribute distfiles without consent, but back them up to a hidden 
> place while it is possible to do so. Obtaining consent to mirror 
> updates or linux specific files of a commercial game which is not 
> distributed anymore when asking politely isn't unseen, because
> often the editor or publisher doesn't care any longer. If you don't
> backup the files first there is little chance you will get them
> from the editor exactly because they don't care.
> 
> Denis.
> 

So, RESTRICT="mirror" would turn into
RESTRICT="officially-dont-mirror-but-actually-do-just-in-case-distfiles-are-dropped-upstream-but-after-we-still-cant-officially-mirror-them-due-to-license-and-copyright-infringement-anyway"
 ?

Pretty sure, no matter what, we aren't going to be allowed to host
these distfiles, even if the upstream host disappears, even if the
company goes under.  If we can't get permission to officially mirror
the files then the company is active and alive, i don't see how it's
likely to get permission after the distfiles/server/company goes away.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-07-16 19:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <53BB07C1.8090801@gentoo.org>
     [not found] ` <53BC12E2.6030002@gentoo.org>
2014-07-16 14:08   ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] last rites: games-fps/postal2mp-demo Denis Dupeyron
2014-07-16 14:50     ` [gentoo-dev] " Ulrich Mueller
2014-07-16 16:06       ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-16 16:20         ` Wulf C. Krueger
2014-07-16 18:22           ` Alexander Berntsen
2014-07-16 19:19             ` Denis Dupeyron
2014-07-16 19:24               ` Alexander Berntsen
2014-07-16 19:28               ` Ian Stakenvicius [this message]
2014-07-16 19:44                 ` Denis Dupeyron
2014-07-16 19:54                   ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-16 20:24                     ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-07-17  4:13           ` Alec Warner

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