From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC1513877A for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 19:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B3FFE083A; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 19:16:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD3CAE0825 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 19:16:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.15] (pool-72-95-142-204.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net [72.95.142.204]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zerochaos) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7D4F033FF41 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 19:16:34 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <53B45B53.7080009@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 15:19:47 -0400 From: "Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins References: <20140702154416.GA1151@linux1> <20140702195437.09c8efdb@pomiot.lan> <53B4523F.8040102@gentoo.org> <53B45860.2050400@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <53B45860.2050400@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 2f538358-d1c3-4e23-b8a9-0299342e6d9b X-Archives-Hash: 2fee6dc678697e06132a7750d4afb83f -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/02/2014 03:07 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 07/02/14 14:41, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 07/02/2014 02:10 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >>>> I don't feel like we ought to vote on something like this without >>>> understanding most of the current profiles. And I'm afraid there are >>>> only few people who have any idea about the current profile >>>> structure... >>> No argument there. >>> >>> We may very well still end up with something hierarchical, but we can >>> at least limit that to the parts of the profile where it matters. >>> Maybe x86/BSD and amd64/Linux and amd64/Linux-hardened need to be >>> interdependent. However, that still gets rid of need to deal with >>> desktop environments, init systems, arguments over what belongs in >>> @system, and so on. We could have a blocker mechanism to keep people >>> from mixing systemd with BSD, or we could just let people shoot >>> themselves in the foot. >>> >>> Sounds like a good time to start reverse engineering the profiles... >>> >> I've talked to the funtoo devs a few times about stealing their profile >> idea. A few things need to be done to make this happen, mainly eselect, >> catalyst, and repoman support. I can do the eselect and catalyst >> changes myself, however, I'll require some help for the repoman support >> most likely. I'll prototype this locally, see what I can make work, and >> then see about making it usable for others to test. >> >> - -Zero >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > > I don't know how to get from here to there. The problem isn't just > constructing an alternative profile tree. We could even have > /usr/portage/profiles-r2 and switch between the two on demand. The > problem is there's a lot of memory with flags and masks and these only > make sense in the context of the current stacking profiles. > Disentangling this information and bringing it over to profiles-r2 is > going to be work. > I agree entirely. Right now the mixin style profiles are not supported in gentoo _at_all_, and if no one ever works on that, then we will never support it. I will work on the first step in a long road, that's all I'm talking about here. 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