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From: "Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina" <zerochaos@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 15:19:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53B45B53.7080009@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53B45860.2050400@gentoo.org>

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On 07/02/2014 03:07 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
> On 07/02/14 14:41, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
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>> On 07/02/2014 02:10 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>>> I don't feel like we ought to vote on something like this without
>>>> understanding most of the current profiles. And I'm afraid there are
>>>> only few people who have any idea about the current profile
>>>> structure...
>>> No argument there.
>>>
>>> We may very well still end up with something hierarchical, but we can
>>> at least limit that to the parts of the profile where it matters.
>>> Maybe x86/BSD and amd64/Linux and amd64/Linux-hardened need to be
>>> interdependent.  However, that still gets rid of need to deal with
>>> desktop environments, init systems, arguments over what belongs in
>>> @system, and so on.  We could have a blocker mechanism to keep people
>>> from mixing systemd with BSD, or we could just let people shoot
>>> themselves in the foot.
>>>
>>> Sounds like a good time to start reverse engineering the profiles...
>>>
>> I've talked to the funtoo devs a few times about stealing their profile
>> idea.  A few things need to be done to make this happen, mainly eselect,
>> catalyst, and repoman support.  I can do the eselect and catalyst
>> changes myself, however, I'll require some help for the repoman support
>> most likely.  I'll prototype this locally, see what I can make work, and
>> then see about making it usable for others to test.
>>
>> - -Zero
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> 
> I don't know how to get from here to there.  The problem isn't just
> constructing an alternative profile tree.  We could even have
> /usr/portage/profiles-r2 and switch between the two on demand.  The
> problem is there's a lot of memory with flags and masks and these only
> make sense in the context of the current stacking profiles.
> Disentangling this information and bringing it over to profiles-r2 is
> going to be work.
> 
I agree entirely.  Right now the mixin style profiles are not supported
in gentoo _at_all_, and if no one ever works on that, then we will never
support it.  I will work on the first step in a long road, that's all
I'm talking about here.

Thanks,
Zero
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-02 19:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-02 15:44 [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins William Hubbs
2014-07-02 17:54 ` Michał Górny
2014-07-02 18:10   ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-02 18:32     ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-07-02 18:35       ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-02 18:41     ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2014-07-02 19:07       ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-07-02 19:19         ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina [this message]
2014-07-02 19:30           ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-03 14:55         ` Andreas K. Huettel
2014-07-03 23:09       ` Tom Wijsman
2014-07-03 23:35         ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-03  6:18   ` Joshua Kinard
2014-07-03  7:00     ` Michael Haubenwallner
2014-07-03  8:47       ` Joshua Kinard
2014-07-03 16:06         ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-07-03  8:53       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2014-07-03  9:01       ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-03  7:32     ` [gentoo-dev] " Michał Górny
2014-07-03  8:21       ` Joshua Kinard

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