From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BA713877A for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 23:32:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64D04E0AE3; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 23:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm18-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm18-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.217.217]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4EF0FE0ACD for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 23:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.137.12.175] by nm18.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2014 23:31:51 -0000 Received: from [208.71.42.209] by tm14.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2014 23:31:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp220.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2014 23:31:51 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s1024; t=1403739111; bh=2QGsGuTOJmNaC84rN4UZ1SRWBri3fVU/U4wdk3e1hPQ=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type; b=RpFvrl5JY7hLwddWf4BhB6SBEO6UKGKGYEa581+UrrtxssnvC8LiYNI5fcQWVM8Sx+aW5eroBypNT5nLtnbshtdAA7vp7fEFGrLeKH0TxQbwpBJMTzHhQwHKo3jT7y4PqzDgDpkpRwdDUrkrGwT2UvQ5siXl6mAr6yu17pjdqGc= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 168702.41148.bm@smtp220.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: d1w0wDcVM1k3LjnL0PKePACsjpUJCxNFTAwrgzTG0OP3snt D8vxs8BfHdLt9J3JlRdMUL89in0gVFzNKEmO18QrTTG8FfXuS9PPIZxULTSv iqmj_bgVjwCW6Q2jYY3KXhBYBWTRggYR0vvfhIfTGnSoZQySMUMutNBuJLe3 S8YqS4.7sgTTJEaKpZA_Qj.3sIyAfmJ8S.MLdou5wWtMWbkOl9t0InXDMusd ZEPsA6FBs4oAK_dazIkYx12cCgCl2jCEmQlEam8ar.QBdd5iooa1dyeX0.XV iK08_V09GQVi2FMaRlUNUEBRpLxdrnwWVygORyP_QQ0wFMX.qfuDcrlFNHgS HGemhsLaRLcbsjhXIseJPcIG.XoSZioKJaJNEJZ7768UJNTKI8NF0uAFDYUL 98CuxfrT7d_zn9swSzu7_twlTXmxTi7IFQ3RmLy3qbllHvQx4jreqyXhCc0C RDbkd9bCkuLcSOIMZr.D40iVuVxllwMeblFyRsw8MfzoRbBB3W8I2zE45sbn gyIPHBMVUeInvQsTX4X3AZmuIdT0zOnM- X-Yahoo-SMTP: Zybq.GKswBCVR5oJTLrx1T39m2F9FA-- X-Rocket-Received: from [192.168.0.14] (alex_y_xu@99.238.151.61 with plain [98.138.105.21]) by smtp220.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Jun 2014 23:31:51 +0000 UTC Message-ID: <53AB5BE5.1050705@yahoo.ca> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 19:31:49 -0400 From: Alex Xu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Changes in installed ebuilds References: <1403570947.24976.1.camel@rook> <20140625122427.7d8f0865@deathstar> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Dl0IrHTgcvUc3QkFKDIMbgshpjlRs0pqV" X-Archives-Salt: 986c919f-4a36-477d-8005-4f0ce335c117 X-Archives-Hash: af9aa34d138e4ed4e3524ec655f74682 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Dl0IrHTgcvUc3QkFKDIMbgshpjlRs0pqV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 25/06/14 06:42 PM, J=C3=B6rg Schaible wrote: > Except if they're locally hard masked ... ;-) there's nothing we can do if you intentionally break your own system >> In that case I think revbump is not warranted since it should continue= >> to work for existing installation and new installations shouldn't be >> any different beside the dependency and not revbumping eliminates some= >> needless rebuilts. >=20 >=20 > The point is: Why update silently the dependency versions for a stable = > release? Especially in this case, because the now "required" versions a= re=20 > the oldest stable ones in the official tree. Therefore anyone with the = > official tree would have had those anyway. But such an action may affec= t=20 > anyone with a local tree or overlays. wrong, please read the mail regarding the >=3D deps in the first place which you have been referred to repeatedly. >> I guess you could fork the needed packages (you can always get older >> versions from cvs) into your custom overlay for old eclipse and mainta= in >> them there under some slot. >=20 >=20 > That's what I actually did for all "bumped" packages in the end. Effort= for=20 > nothing. broken system is broken --Dl0IrHTgcvUc3QkFKDIMbgshpjlRs0pqV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTq1vmAAoJEOFfLQs172iqHxoQAICkV9W21X2twkoEM81UfKFJ yfoAMpbQktgFu67nO/NkL2MY1NCSRP17AD/N0WArm+zAYxZ2dIY+UVdPbdqp1Q2a 7GTfsNBBLM6CiraxvcTRrCsxKuUE/Wy9oahK+y9gMdGa3Bf1PFtiqrJ9KxZTPzqx DC/lVfmM12N3ofL5nYRnIi8cAMVYdgD2/G9BZl+47qMAnL9ObfTwozYCx4Fma+p7 qj/y/oHLQy0/bPPvXV+7D8ilD1486ALqeiasBvcesx7+u2MQJ/cYOtweYnMhFaNd Op4AW1cJsoiyfiRXPsCMnRpvZxR2M1KXL+B1mASFDfJbYYQD7iyxNZ3ZegPnFEq5 GZdZiPLHaEOtOF3abFXHns62yU9P4nx6YqnTZnp8PjLRG+tStLkj02qWdprfyo3D 2B7CsJrvJUeYWt0ifn+CH8ELCaWVjJd5/qaMRTF48uF/bp9Whyzw7ODuO2G0Tq0e I9gyT3PyKSdlxCO4xp3IX2/27XsOLVAyjjx57chK7X8N3RJl+bdsN5k44FIYnctP vXoKFkaKIKYMe7xIDWTDafSnd6Ed3ngXaFZb01krtkNk13TKbEM/00BVuKq61kXe 1l1RaOQKzL7lJuEEnyX+CwYR19HOijDDMTk5sABP1+mnANgehBu0opNg1lVtHrr9 4faWgFr5fwJkgshmazvf =Sk/e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Dl0IrHTgcvUc3QkFKDIMbgshpjlRs0pqV--