From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6AE13877A for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:37:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2909BE0B6D; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:37:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08EF5E0B56 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:37:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (exit1.telostor.ca [195.154.85.232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: hasufell) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8842E3400AA for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:37:45 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <53A060C2.1030305@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:37:38 +0000 From: hasufell Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: crossdev and multilib interference References: <53208139.2040509@gentoo.org> <1660834.UE1ARX9orZ@vapier> <20140327084108.GA3654@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> <31757180.gTPZtqku3h@vapier> <20140330095348.GA18419@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> <539E03A9.3010109@gentoo.org> <539E0563.3080302@gentoo.org> <539EF323.7020208@gentoo.org> <1402944163.8309.2.camel@oswin.hackershack.net> <539F462E.6050905@gentoo.org> <20140616214257.096c93fc@marga.jer-c2.orkz.net> <539F49C2.6090008@gentoo.org> <539F4DFA.7020706@gentoo.org> <539F5288.1000000@gentoo.org> <539F5AB5.7000006@gentoo.org> <539F6B3C.7030807@gentoo.org> <539F8000.5080804@gentoo.org> <539F9E41.9050505@gentoo.org> <539FA536.3010401@gentoo.org> <53A034F4.2000900@gentoo.org> <53A04AF6.9010106@gentoo.org> <53A052EE.4020702@gentoo.org> <53A0587F.8000408@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <53A0587F.8000408@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 579d90f9-c5ae-4a14-8586-66771d906cc0 X-Archives-Hash: d3df4770b4b358e3ec88d442e8dcc17c Joshua Kinard: > Provide a technical counter-argument to that or propose a solution that > people can agree on and you're going to find people are a LOT more willing > to stand with you on fixing the perceived problem. > I start to think here is some confusion going on. We already proposed solutions and there was no agreement. There are no more possibilities, except rewriting crossdev, doing non-trivial hackery on toolchain eclasses or stashing the whole multilib idea. There were some ideas about a few make.profile hacks, but they didn't happen either. I reopened this thread to make clear that we need to at least communicate this problem to the user and I proposed more ways than just hardmasking. Also, I am not going to work on solutions that have no agreement whatsoever. It does not make sense. So, I have no idea what you expect me to do that did not already happen.