From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5461813877A for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 14:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88303E0B4C; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 14:34:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F410E0AB4 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 14:34:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FRMW1o0090EZKEL58Sa9kt; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 14:34:09 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.13] ([50.190.84.14]) by omta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FSa81o00f0JZ7Re3MSa9pR; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 14:34:09 +0000 Message-ID: <53A051DA.8030506@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 10:34:02 -0400 From: Joshua Kinard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: crossdev and multilib interference References: <53208139.2040509@gentoo.org> <1660834.UE1ARX9orZ@vapier> <20140327084108.GA3654@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> <31757180.gTPZtqku3h@vapier> <20140330095348.GA18419@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> <539E03A9.3010109@gentoo.org> <539E0563.3080302@gentoo.org> <539EF323.7020208@gentoo.org> <1402944163.8309.2.camel@oswin.hackershack.net> <539F462E.6050905@gentoo.org> <20140616214257.096c93fc@marga.jer-c2.orkz.net> <539F49C2.6090008@gentoo.org> <539F4DFA.7020706@gentoo.org> <539F5288.1000000@gentoo.org> <539F5AB5.7000006@gentoo.org> <539F6B3C.7030807@gentoo.org> <539F8000.5080804@gentoo.org> <53A041CC.9070003@gentoo.org> <20140617162258.589e4216@pomiot.lan> In-Reply-To: <20140617162258.589e4216@pomiot.lan> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1403015649; bh=BZhuKNJYk+bFFwl8oqlU1ZQlTvmwZf/vAtEnOGWZdhA=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=idkZ4z/rHyuKuan/MVwkabQKvv/1BLcAMfOE4o5OwsQCQhd7ItS/KjfGrPAEtjMds YPUhf1kvYphGM1OJADrrgmnQ7uyDjNSrx8C5g9Hdu1mLGKdy8prjfCw/Ck26GpI5+U JurIBq8HPqbp7z8LrlXKFxyydhMWaVRcsh/pvDTO8Py0ySO6OtD0JJAX3mGugy9tAN bsEkT3piU7xKIWsT4bXXfz59q0l8YDC79eegP4pf850FaUAv5IWL8fcFOUGIY2Ifpl QQgx67kOes8eGWzp8WGoh4OSRT4MN+G0hz+BKn0cphZ8NmtvkrzJK+3CtK183Pb5PO 1I1FwCZiLON9Q== X-Archives-Salt: b7ac49da-f10b-4a47-a52f-8929e2b8b246 X-Archives-Hash: d9c8f2e0f4d2b64f6689930ca9e7fd41 On 06/17/2014 10:22, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2014-06-17, o godz. 09:25:32 > Ian Stakenvicius napisał(a): > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA256 >> >> On 16/06/14 07:38 PM, Joshua Kinard wrote: >>> Can $PATH be configured via our existing eselect tool to >>> enable/disable the crossdev paths when needed? >>> >> >> Technically it could but not really ; PATH is an environment thing, >> AFAIK all eselect could do is trigger the addition or removal of >> entries in /etc/env.d/ , but after that happens one would still need >> to 'env-update && . /etc/profile' to get the changes. >> >> Similarly I don't think using an eselect tool to bring the crossdev >> tools into the default path (via symlinks) is a great idea either; yes >> it'd allow users to un-eselect the crossdev tools when errors occur, >> but the errors would still occur every time a user forgets to do this >> first. >> >> It would be easier to update PATH yourself manually in the shell, I >> expect; perhaps a quick utility could do that for you (maybe opening >> up a crossdev-ready subshell) so you don't have to remember the path. > > +1. That's how sane tools work. +1 for providing a technical reason why my off-the-cuff idea won't work. This is what we need to address this perceived problem: Ideas. Weed out the ones that don't work and figure out what can work, then apply it. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS kumba@gentoo.org 4096R/D25D95E3 2011-03-28 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-between." --Emperor Turhan, Centauri Republic