From: Joshua Kinard <kumba@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] crossdev and multilib interference
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 20:03:34 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <539F85D6.5090108@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140616234208.631dc64b@marga.jer-c2.orkz.net>
On 06/16/2014 17:42, Jeroen Roovers wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 16:27:19 -0400
> Ian Stakenvicius <axs@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
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>> On 16/06/14 04:05 PM, Joshua Kinard wrote:
>>> On 06/16/2014 15:47, hasufell wrote:
>>>> So I don't see what else we can do here other than taking more
>>>> radical steps to INFORM users of these possible breakages... and
>>>> that's exactly what a hardmask is for.
>>>
>>> What about those of us who have been using crossdev to generate
>>> cross-compilers for years w/o issue, because we run non-multilib?
>>> Hardmasking crossdev to solve multilib problems doesn't accomplish
>>> anything, other than just irk us. Why not hardmask the multilib
>>> stuff instead and leave crossdev alone?
>>
>> well, we could hardmask in the multilib profiles... but that's a bit
>> of a digression
>
> OK, let's sum it up.
>
> We have multilib users.
>
> We have crossdev users.
>
> Some multilib users are crossdev users.
>
> Some multilib users who are crossdev users have built a cross-toolchain.
>
> Some multilib users who have built a cross-toolchain experience bug
> #500338.
>
> Masking crossdev would cause issues for all crossdev users.
>
> Masking multilib would cause issues for all multilib users.
>
> Masking crossdev on multilib profiles would cause issues for all users
> of both crossdev and multilib who haven't built a cross-toolchain that
> irks multilib
>
> Masking crossdev on multilib profiles would also cause issues for all
> users of both crossdev and multilib who haven't built a cross-toolchain
> at all but now find they want to and run into bug #500338.
>
> In short, masking crossdev in any of the above ways results in very
> little progress, and is detrimental to solving the issue since the mask
> would prevent testing on a wide range of platforms because of the
> inconvenience that masking causes, deterring people from even trying.
>
> jer
+1
--
Joshua Kinard
Gentoo/MIPS
kumba@gentoo.org
4096R/D25D95E3 2011-03-28
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our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-between."
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2014-03-12 15:46 [gentoo-dev] crossdev and multilib interference hasufell
2014-03-12 16:06 ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-03-12 18:56 ` Alexis Ballier
2014-03-16 11:50 ` Greg Turner
2014-03-26 6:07 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-26 12:25 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2014-03-26 16:12 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-26 16:23 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-03-27 2:41 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27 4:41 ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-03-27 6:07 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27 6:31 ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-03-27 6:41 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27 6:51 ` Michał Górny
2014-03-27 7:23 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27 6:58 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-03-27 8:41 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2014-03-28 6:36 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-30 9:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2014-06-15 20:35 ` hasufell
2014-06-15 20:43 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2014-06-16 13:37 ` hasufell
2014-06-16 18:42 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-06-16 19:31 ` hasufell
2014-06-16 19:42 ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-06-16 19:47 ` hasufell
2014-06-16 20:05 ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-16 20:24 ` hasufell
2014-06-16 20:59 ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-16 22:10 ` hasufell
2014-06-16 23:38 ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-17 1:47 ` hasufell
2014-06-17 2:17 ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-17 12:30 ` hasufell
2014-06-17 12:49 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-17 13:53 ` hasufell
2014-06-17 14:17 ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-17 14:56 ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-06-17 15:10 ` Michał Górny
2014-06-18 15:24 ` Peter Stuge
2014-06-19 7:58 ` Michał Górny
2014-06-17 15:20 ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-18 5:08 ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-06-18 6:24 ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-18 14:18 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-06-19 21:20 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2014-06-20 20:10 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ian Stakenvicius
2014-06-21 10:31 ` Greg Turner
2014-06-21 20:47 ` Michał Górny
2014-08-01 9:05 ` Steven J. Long
2014-08-01 14:36 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-08-01 18:17 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2014-06-18 4:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2014-06-17 14:04 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: " Joshua Kinard
2014-06-17 14:38 ` hasufell
2014-06-17 15:02 ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-17 15:18 ` hasufell
2014-06-17 15:37 ` hasufell
2014-06-17 12:48 ` hasufell
2014-06-17 14:31 ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-17 13:25 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-06-17 14:22 ` Michał Górny
2014-06-17 14:34 ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-16 23:25 ` Patrick Lauer
2014-06-16 20:27 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-06-16 21:42 ` [gentoo-dev] " Jeroen Roovers
2014-06-17 0:03 ` Joshua Kinard [this message]
2014-06-16 20:25 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: " hasufell
2014-06-16 2:24 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2014-06-16 13:27 ` hasufell
2014-06-17 4:52 ` Ryan Hill
2014-06-17 12:29 ` hasufell
2014-03-29 1:21 ` [gentoo-dev] " Maciej Mrozowski
2014-03-16 12:01 ` Greg Turner
2014-03-13 8:55 ` Michał Górny
2014-03-13 12:20 ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-03-26 5:17 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27 6:13 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27 6:51 ` Michał Górny
2014-03-27 7:18 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27 9:10 ` Michał Górny
2014-03-27 14:23 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27 14:31 ` Michał Górny
2014-03-28 6:33 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-29 21:39 ` Michał Górny
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