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From: Joshua Kinard <kumba@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] crossdev and multilib interference
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 20:03:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <539F85D6.5090108@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140616234208.631dc64b@marga.jer-c2.orkz.net>

On 06/16/2014 17:42, Jeroen Roovers wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 16:27:19 -0400
> Ian Stakenvicius <axs@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
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>> On 16/06/14 04:05 PM, Joshua Kinard wrote:
>>> On 06/16/2014 15:47, hasufell wrote:
>>>> So I don't see what else we can do here other than taking more
>>>> radical steps to INFORM users of these possible breakages... and
>>>> that's exactly what a hardmask is for.
>>>
>>> What about those of us who have been using crossdev to generate 
>>> cross-compilers for years w/o issue, because we run non-multilib? 
>>> Hardmasking crossdev to solve multilib problems doesn't accomplish
>>> anything, other than just irk us.  Why not hardmask the multilib
>>> stuff instead and leave crossdev alone?
>>
>> well, we could hardmask in the multilib profiles...  but that's a bit
>> of a digression
> 
> OK, let's sum it up.
> 
> We have multilib users.
> 
> We have crossdev users.
> 
> Some multilib users are crossdev users.
> 
> Some multilib users who are crossdev users have built a cross-toolchain.
> 
> Some multilib users who have built a cross-toolchain experience bug
> #500338.
> 
> Masking crossdev would cause issues for all crossdev users.
> 
> Masking multilib would cause issues for all multilib users.
> 
> Masking crossdev on multilib profiles would cause issues for all users
> of both crossdev and multilib who haven't built a cross-toolchain that
> irks multilib
> 
> Masking crossdev on multilib profiles would also cause issues for all
> users of both crossdev and multilib who haven't built a cross-toolchain
> at all but now find they want to and run into bug #500338.
> 
> In short, masking crossdev in any of the above ways results in very
> little progress, and is detrimental to solving the issue since the mask
> would prevent testing on a wide range of platforms because of the
> inconvenience that masking causes, deterring people from even trying.
> 
>      jer

+1

-- 
Joshua Kinard
Gentoo/MIPS
kumba@gentoo.org
4096R/D25D95E3 2011-03-28

"The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us.  And
our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-between."

--Emperor Turhan, Centauri Republic


  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-17  0:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-12 15:46 [gentoo-dev] crossdev and multilib interference hasufell
2014-03-12 16:06 ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-03-12 18:56   ` Alexis Ballier
2014-03-16 11:50   ` Greg Turner
2014-03-26  6:07     ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-26 12:25       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2014-03-26 16:12         ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-26 16:23           ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-03-27  2:41             ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27  4:41               ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-03-27  6:07                 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27  6:31                   ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-03-27  6:41                     ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27  6:51                       ` Michał Górny
2014-03-27  7:23                         ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27  6:58                       ` Samuli Suominen
2014-03-27  8:41           ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2014-03-28  6:36             ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-30  9:53               ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2014-06-15 20:35                 ` hasufell
2014-06-15 20:43                   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2014-06-16 13:37                     ` hasufell
2014-06-16 18:42                       ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-06-16 19:31                         ` hasufell
2014-06-16 19:42                           ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-06-16 19:47                             ` hasufell
2014-06-16 20:05                               ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-16 20:24                                 ` hasufell
2014-06-16 20:59                                   ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-16 22:10                                     ` hasufell
2014-06-16 23:38                                       ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-17  1:47                                         ` hasufell
2014-06-17  2:17                                           ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-17 12:30                                             ` hasufell
2014-06-17 12:49                                               ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-17 13:53                                                 ` hasufell
2014-06-17 14:17                                                 ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-17 14:56                                                   ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-06-17 15:10                                                     ` Michał Górny
2014-06-18 15:24                                                       ` Peter Stuge
2014-06-19  7:58                                                         ` Michał Górny
2014-06-17 15:20                                                     ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-18  5:08                                                       ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-06-18  6:24                                                         ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-18 14:18                                                           ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-06-19 21:20                                                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2014-06-20 20:10                                                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Ian Stakenvicius
2014-06-21 10:31                                                         ` Greg Turner
2014-06-21 20:47                                                           ` Michał Górny
2014-08-01  9:05                                                         ` Steven J. Long
2014-08-01 14:36                                                           ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-08-01 18:17                                                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2014-06-18  4:29                                                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2014-06-17 14:04                                               ` [gentoo-dev] Re: " Joshua Kinard
2014-06-17 14:38                                                 ` hasufell
2014-06-17 15:02                                                   ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-17 15:18                                                     ` hasufell
2014-06-17 15:37                                                     ` hasufell
2014-06-17 12:48                                             ` hasufell
2014-06-17 14:31                                               ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-17 13:25                                         ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-06-17 14:22                                           ` Michał Górny
2014-06-17 14:34                                             ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-16 23:25                                   ` Patrick Lauer
2014-06-16 20:27                                 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-06-16 21:42                                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Jeroen Roovers
2014-06-17  0:03                                     ` Joshua Kinard [this message]
2014-06-16 20:25                         ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: " hasufell
2014-06-16  2:24                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2014-06-16 13:27                     ` hasufell
2014-06-17  4:52                       ` Ryan Hill
2014-06-17 12:29                         ` hasufell
2014-03-29  1:21       ` [gentoo-dev] " Maciej Mrozowski
2014-03-16 12:01   ` Greg Turner
2014-03-13  8:55 ` Michał Górny
2014-03-13 12:20   ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-03-26  5:17   ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27  6:13     ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27  6:51       ` Michał Górny
2014-03-27  7:18         ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27  9:10           ` Michał Górny
2014-03-27 14:23             ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27 14:31               ` Michał Górny
2014-03-28  6:33                 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-29 21:39                   ` Michał Górny

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