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From: Ian Stakenvicius <axs@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes?
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 12:05:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <539C72B1.8070205@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140614164151.45afb5ca@pomiot.lan>

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On 14/06/14 10:41 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Some time ago we've got bug #510780 [1] asking us to bump subslot 
> on LLVM even though the new version was ABI-compatible with
> previous one. It was because it introduced new APIs which
> applications could make use of. Since I believe this is a wider
> issue, I would like to know the opinion of our community about
> this.
> 
> More specifically: do we want subslots to change only when
> backwards- incompatible ABI changes are done -- alike SONAME -- or
> whenever any ABI change is done? The problem seems a bit complex.
> 
> Considering the libtool versioning, there are two kinds of library 
> bumps relevant to us:
> 
> 1) when ABI is altered in backwards-compatible way (so old stuff is
> not touched),
> 
> 2) when ABI is altered in backwards-incompatible way.
> 

I vote that as primary policy/general practice, it only be bumped for
(2) -- the primary purpose of subslot rebuilds is to allow portage to
figure out the deptree order when a dependency upgrade is going to
break a package that may or may not be emerged later.  "break" is the
key term here.  If users want to re-emerge the rdeps of a package on
upgrade they can certainly do so, but I don't see this as something we
want to force on everybody just because we can...


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-14 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-14 14:41 [gentoo-dev] Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes? Michał Górny
2014-06-14 15:13 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-06-14 15:32   ` hasufell
2014-06-14 15:45     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-06-14 16:04       ` Georg Rudoy
2014-06-14 16:16       ` hasufell
2014-06-14 16:19         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-06-14 16:25           ` hasufell
2014-06-14 15:50   ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-06-14 15:56     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-06-14 16:17       ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-06-14 16:31         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-06-14 16:35           ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-06-14 20:00           ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-14 23:41     ` Patrick Lauer
2014-06-14 16:05 ` Ian Stakenvicius [this message]
2014-06-14 16:10   ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2014-06-14 16:23   ` [gentoo-dev] " hasufell
2014-06-14 16:50 ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-06-14 16:57   ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-06-14 17:13   ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2014-06-16  9:47   ` [gentoo-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2014-06-16 10:54     ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-15 19:13 ` Matt Turner
2014-06-16  9:44 ` Pacho Ramos

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