From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DAF1381FA for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 01:12:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 257FBE0B27; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 01:12:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com (mail-wi0-f180.google.com [209.85.212.180]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E1A6E0B23 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 01:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f180.google.com with SMTP id hi2so2479247wib.1 for ; Wed, 04 Jun 2014 18:12:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DU2aAQu8Sbptg15AvjfZGfTgcUTYTZ463e5PkfBxbPk=; b=SBY6L+1Yx8lMPQUbPTUVLPKTilwdGU4MQAXh7oPlUyxAUsBqFUWfabhpAdZJL1lMhN MNl+sXg3sLolgarA+W+IDAhbfxgKqZUUZPd3m1la1vX84h3z+X9rLYtXfKHICQe4cvaE xLyJhzudzrqPKuS72PDQ6p9Jen8MUBY3+To5QDwMk26TMkl6EFBKhpj5uQ1F4N/5lcjZ AEsR8YfFVOq6paI4FZVfmY867RrZNKnMwgiMRC9kWdGB/gJSBMD8EscMrMpXPu/i+hsX 7UyFWqlUV61NzxILDcVRnnxGSBFqVSVUPdyhSOLO6QiYihb2+64ZZif+/FYHfqmN2heV o3nA== X-Received: by 10.180.90.233 with SMTP id bz9mr10742460wib.42.1401930724679; Wed, 04 Jun 2014 18:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.40] (196-215-51-239.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.215.51.239]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id u1sm12517481wia.16.2014.06.04.18.12.03 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 04 Jun 2014 18:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <538FC3B7.9040500@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 03:11:19 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: news item for upower References: <538DED0F.8010709@gentoo.org> <1401812396.19408.4.camel@oswin.hackershack.net> <20140603185813.18588.qmail@stuge.se> <538E26F6.2000801@gentoo.org> <538E2EEB.1080309@gmail.com> <20140604003244.733627bb@gentoo.org> <538E510C.3020703@gmail.com> <538E9C8F.30402@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <538E9C8F.30402@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 96f70dfe-a08d-43c5-b745-3cdd10f607f9 X-Archives-Hash: f4901b53b90b4c58390b435c7fdb3e0e On 04/06/2014 06:11, Samuli Suominen wrote: > As in, don't you think I've considered, as a active GLEP 42 user, if there > was a need for one this time? I weighted my options for 3 months before > acting, and people actually agreed with me it wasn't necessary at this > time. I'm really suprised about this, how small group of loud people > on ML can have this kind of effect. It's like, pick a $package_name, > raise enough noise on ML about it, get a news item saying 'emerge ' I have no problem that you made a judgement call and didn't think a news item was necessary. But these things are always a gamble to some degree and sometimes the effect isn't what you expected with the facts to hand. Given the number of threads on -user, it really looks like the dice didn't roll in your favour this time; it looks to you like a simple decision re blockers but to the users there they see something very different, and a news item gives them the info they need. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com