From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2462C1381FA for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 00:44:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A13EFE0B11; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 00:44:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A76DAE0B02 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 00:44:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.111] (unknown [114.91.164.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: patrick) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3869333FD86 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 00:44:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <538E6BFD.4040707@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 08:44:45 +0800 From: Patrick Lauer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UPower upstream (git master) and 0.99 release -> No sys-power/pm-utils support anymore References: <5383A0E6.3020700@gentoo.org> <20140531024701.GB3828@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> <5389BA4C.8040106@gentoo.org> <2990845.EWIttsqmb4@andromeda> <538DB0C5.6070206@gentoo.org> <538E6086.1010701@gentoo.org> <20140604022431.49a453ea@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20140604022431.49a453ea@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 048c3785-da28-40b9-ba59-06a99175b65a X-Archives-Hash: eb9b7a1245a9c1eecc33757267e39f92 On 06/04/2014 08:24 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 07:55:50 +0800 > Patrick Lauer wrote: > >> On 06/03/2014 07:25 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >>> >>> On 03/06/14 14:40, J. Roeleveld wrote: >>>> Would have been nice to fix all the dependencies BEFORE marking the >>>> systemd- depending "sys-power/upower-pm-utils" stable. -- Joost >>> >>> No clue what you mean, sys-power/upower-pm-utils doesn't depend on >>> sys-apps/systemd, >>> and whole Portage tree is converted to proper dependencies and the >>> conversion went in >>> the correct steps. >> >> The only step missing is: >> >> Mask the new version on all non-systemd profiles so that portage >> doesn't try to install it >> >> (I wonder why systemd and the related stuff isn't masked on >> non-systemd profiles anyway ...) > > There is no such thing as a non-systemd profile; a sub directory is a > specialization, that doesn't mean that it parents suddenly become the > opposite of that. No, the parents are just generalizations that aren't > as specific as the sub directory. Since systemd needs special profiles to be easy to use ... ... it'd be the boring and easy way to restrict it to those profiles so that dependency changes don't cause this needless amount of work for users, and this indecent amount of mail on this mailinglist > > Doing what you've suggested everywhere but in gnome/systemd and > kde/systemd is a recipe to upset everyone whom runs systemd on another > desktop environment than GNOME or KDE; so, that's not a way forward. I have no idea what you are trying to say, but there's a desktop profile > Another option is to create no-systemd sub directories; but such > profiles will be highly controversial, besides helping the exponential > grow of the profiles directories as well as be a non-default profile. The "default" is already that, all I'm suggesting is masking systemd there so that portage doesn't needlessly antagonize users > Mix-ins from Funtoo, anyone? No thanks