From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F4C1381FA for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 14:45:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C7D3E0A65; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 14:45:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E006E0A4F for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 14:45:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [141.23.84.91] (wlan-141-23-84-91.tubit.tu-berlin.de [141.23.84.91]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: chithanh) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BEC4433FF58 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 14:45:41 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <538DDF90.8000009@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 16:45:36 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2jDrS1UaGFuaCBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciBOZ3V54buFbg==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UPower upstream (git master) and 0.99 release -> No sys-power/pm-utils support anymore References: <5383A0E6.3020700@gentoo.org> <20140531024701.GB3828@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> <5389BA4C.8040106@gentoo.org> <2990845.EWIttsqmb4@andromeda> <538DB0C5.6070206@gentoo.org> <20140603140850.7b69dff6@gentoo.org> <538DBE76.8060300@gentoo.org> <20140603152000.256c8e2a@gentoo.org> <538DCD8F.2050908@gentoo.org> <20140603154000.6c8e0372@gentoo.org> <538DD1AA.8070804@gentoo.org> <538DD7D8.1030008@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <538DD7D8.1030008@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 1ba7044d-fb58-4221-8e64-498bf5cb5f20 X-Archives-Hash: 20883c4f05eaa2d82c427b42272abee9 Samuli Suominen schrieb: > On 03/06/14 16:53, Rich Freeman wrote: >> So, I get why you did it, but my concern is that when you tell >> portage that non-systemd users shouldn't use this package, portage >> helpfully solves that problem by turning all the non-systemd users >> into systemd users, instead of switching them to the alternative that >> works without systemd. > Portage doesn't do anything on it's own, surely it needs an admin to accept > or reject the changes I disagree. It would have been straightforward to create a transitional package sys-power/upower-10000 which makes openrc users transition to sys-power/upower-pm-utils and systemd users to sys-power/upower-systemd or something similar. And please keep such changes out of stable until proper documentation is in place (and the 30 day period has elapsed, etc.) Best regards, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn