From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0281381FA for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 13:48:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5470DE0979; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 13:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E2DEE093B for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 13:48:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.173.147.84] (85-76-37-17-nat.elisa-mobile.fi [85.76.37.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ssuominen) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E8F8033FEA8 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 13:48:39 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <538DD1AA.8070804@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 16:46:18 +0300 From: Samuli Suominen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UPower upstream (git master) and 0.99 release -> No sys-power/pm-utils support anymore References: <5383A0E6.3020700@gentoo.org> <20140531024701.GB3828@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> <5389BA4C.8040106@gentoo.org> <2990845.EWIttsqmb4@andromeda> <538DB0C5.6070206@gentoo.org> <20140603140850.7b69dff6@gentoo.org> <538DBE76.8060300@gentoo.org> <20140603152000.256c8e2a@gentoo.org> <538DCD8F.2050908@gentoo.org> <20140603154000.6c8e0372@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20140603154000.6c8e0372@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 22dbbc55-c63a-44b4-a1f2-101aa36cc149 X-Archives-Hash: 747ff87c5a30bdc72f1b277067660263 On 03/06/14 16:40, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 16:28:47 +0300 > Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> On 03/06/14 16:20, Tom Wijsman wrote: >>> Ehm, no, version 0.9.23-r3 controls that with a systemd USE flag; >> No, it doesn't. > Nevermind, `cvs up`-ed; heh, I don't understand how you've got to > that change, I thought there only was a problem with 0.99.0? > >>> in comparison, 0.99.0 mainly wants you to run it with systemd: >> "mainly", as in, since 0.99.0 removed support for hibenate/suspend >> in favour of systemd, the power/session managers need to integrate >> their own hibernate/suspend support diffently. > Ah, right; thinking of MATE, I understand the 0.99.0 bit now. > >>> 26 May 2014; Samuli Suominen >>> upower-0.99.0.ebuild: This release is mainly for use with >>> sys-apps/systemd because upstream removed support for >>> sys-power/pm-utils completely from git master. The 0.9 branch is >>> for sys-power/pm-utils use. Adjust ebuild accordingly. >>> >>> Though I'm a bit confused why 0.99.0 doesn't list a systemd >>> dependency; I thought it had one, but maybe it is in another >>> package I'm unaware of. >>> >> Outdated ChangeLog entry from March, those were the facts we dealt >> back then, >> only partly true anymore, consumers have evolved > Which means that the situation I am assuming right now is outdated; so, > if you don't mind feel free to highlight why 0.9.23-r3 needs systemd. > To prevent OpenRC users from installing this version because it's an old UPower with no pm-utils support, with no hibernate/suspend support, to ensure desktops don't end up with greyed out Hibernate/Suspend buttons To direct users to upower-pm-utils, or upower-0.99.0, or plain pm-utils, or other To indicate OpenRC users can't stay with sys-power/upower older than 0.99.0 because they are going away, to indicate this is the best time to make informed decision and take manual action regarding choosing which features set he/she wants, to read up upstream announcements regarding UPower, to follow-up and do what admins do - Samuli