From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (unknown [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490F91381FA for ; Tue, 27 May 2014 06:58:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F733E0886; Tue, 27 May 2014 06:58:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E965E0875 for ; Tue, 27 May 2014 06:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.169.98.77] (unknown [85.76.48.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ssuominen) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 36A6E33F839 for ; Tue, 27 May 2014 06:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5384373D.1050007@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 09:57:01 +0300 From: Samuli Suominen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] UPower upstream (git master) and 0.99 release -> No sys-power/pm-utils support anymore References: <5383A0E6.3020700@gentoo.org> <20140527073451.14027003@pomiot.lan> In-Reply-To: <20140527073451.14027003@pomiot.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 43317b27-84ff-4a76-ae36-c934b3cafd3f X-Archives-Hash: d6a3e3bc0ee4422c617a317a326451c1 On 27/05/14 08:34, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2014-05-26, o godz. 23:15:34 > Samuli Suominen napisał(a): > >> UPower upstream removed sys-power/pm-utils support from 0.99 release >> (currently unkeyworded in tree), as in, from current git master. > Don't worry. Looking at the past, I can guess this is only a temporary > inconvenience. I'm pretty sure upower will be discontinued soon > and replaced with systemd-powerd or something :D. > That's more or less what they already did, they forced eg. xfce4-power-manager upstream to move the deleted pm-utils code from upower directly to the power manager (application) itself, likewise for xfce4-session Which means applications will now need to duplicate the pm-utils related code per application basis So I expect upower to be more or less dead for everything but systemd users, except for those upstreams that will actually follow the Xfce path and do the duplication Yet, still, small portition of the code is still 'generic', so xfce4-power-manager will still need both, upower, even 0.99, and then pm-utils, depending on the version, codepath is selected This was sort of expected, since pm-utils has been abandoned for ~5 years now at upstream, so nobody is maintaining non-systemd related power management tools anymore, and falling back to eg. manual laptop-mode-tools, acpid, etc. usage will be necessary again, it's like going back to 90s for non-systemd users :P - Samuli