[gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

[gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

[Caleb Tennis]

Hi all,

Right now both the KDE and Ruby herds (which, informally, I am the *lead*
on both) are hurting for people.  I don't have the time to work on general
maintenance and bugs at the moment, so we need some help.  I've sent out a
request for help in the GWN a few weeks ago and got a lot of good leads on
potential new devs, but unfortunately I don't have the time right now to
mentor anyone either.

If you're able to help in either one of these herds, it would certainly be
appreciated.  You don't need my permission or anything - just add yourself
to the herd and throw a mail out to the alias saying you're joining us.

Furthermore, if you can take on the role of mentoring people, I'd be happy
to pass on some e-mail addresses of folks who showed interest in becoming
devs.  Mail me for that information.

Thanks,
Caleb

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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

[Aaron Kulbe]

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On 8/22/06, Caleb Tennis <caleb@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Right now both the KDE and Ruby herds (which, informally, I am the *lead*
> on both) are hurting for people.  I don't have the time to work on general
> maintenance and bugs at the moment, so we need some help.  I've sent out a
> request for help in the GWN a few weeks ago and got a lot of good leads on
> potential new devs, but unfortunately I don't have the time right now to
> mentor anyone either.
>
> If you're able to help in either one of these herds, it would certainly be
> appreciated.  You don't need my permission or anything - just add yourself
> to the herd and throw a mail out to the alias saying you're joining us.
>
>
Caleb,

I'm going to add myself to the Ruby herd, if I can ever get infra- to get
off their asses and put my keys back up on the servers.  I had a total data
loss in the last couple weeks, and had to rebuild.

question... gem is the "official" package manager for Ruby.  Why do we put
Ruby stuff, other than the bare minimums to get Ruby running, in the portage
tree?  Why not just let gem handle it?

Cheers,

Aaron Kulbe
superlag@gentoo.org

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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

[Aaron Kulbe]

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<snip>
>
>
> I'm going to add myself to the Ruby herd, if I can ever get infra- to get
> off their asses and put my keys back up on the servers.  I had a total data
> loss in the last couple weeks, and had to rebuild.
>

Okay. I have to apologize gentlemen.  I will take my lumps.  I said this out
of frustration.  There, it's out.  Someone had been trying to help me with
this, and he's on vacation... and other's know about it but haven't done
anything.  It seems like a simple procedure to put keys on a server, but
it's taking forever to get it done.  That being said, I have NO desire to
start yet another argument on the lists.

I apologize.  Now I'm going to go and bury my head in the sand somewhere.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

[Ioannis Aslanidis]

Do you have any instructions for me Caleb? Shall I continue by picking 
up bugs and doing the usual stuff or do you have something else in mind?

Caleb Tennis wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
[...]
> 
> Thanks,
> Caleb
> 
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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

[Ioannis Aslanidis]

Meh, this wasn't supposed to get to the list :/

Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> Do you have any instructions for me Caleb? Shall I continue by picking 
> up bugs and doing the usual stuff or do you have something else in mind?
> 
> Caleb Tennis wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
> [...]
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Caleb
>>
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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

[Aaron Kulbe]

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On 8/22/06, Ioannis Aslanidis <aslanidis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Meh, this wasn't supposed to get to the list :/


<snip>

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one today, that has this problem. :)

Cheers,

Aaron Kulbe
superlag@gentoo.org

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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

[Doug Goldstein]

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Caleb Tennis wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Right now both the KDE and Ruby herds (which, informally, I am the *lead*
> on both) are hurting for people.  I don't have the time to work on general
> maintenance and bugs at the moment, so we need some help.  I've sent out a
> request for help in the GWN a few weeks ago and got a lot of good leads on
> potential new devs, but unfortunately I don't have the time right now to
> mentor anyone either.
> 
> If you're able to help in either one of these herds, it would certainly be
> appreciated.  You don't need my permission or anything - just add yourself
> to the herd and throw a mail out to the alias saying you're joining us.
> 
> Furthermore, if you can take on the role of mentoring people, I'd be happy
> to pass on some e-mail addresses of folks who showed interest in becoming
> devs.  Mail me for that information.
> 
> Thanks,
> Caleb
> 

Caleb,

I run KDE at work and I search through bugs sometimes when I'm there. I
can try to wrangle some bugs for you guys and fix them. I can't promise
to be too active though. But I'd gladly help out.

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Doug Goldstein <cardoe@gentoo.org>
http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/


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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

[Mike Bonar]

Caleb Tennis wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Right now both the KDE and Ruby herds (which, informally, I am the *lead*
> on both) are hurting for people.  I don't have the time to work on general
> <snip>
>
> Thanks,
> Caleb
>
>   
I was looking for an excuse to learn Ruby.  I'll help all I can.

Mike
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: KDE and Ruby herd call for help

[Caleb Tennis]

> Have they already done the ebuild quiz?
>
> I would love to have some guys fixing kde bugs and asking me or someone
> else
> in the team to check and commit it. So, if they have their quiz I would
> love to help mentoring them and otherwise I would love to see them in IRC

No quizzes yet.  When I've put calls for help before I find that we
usually get a lot of responses and then a lot of people quickly fizzle
out.  I wanted to at least get through that round before we start going
through the ebuild quiz process.  I'll be sure and send people your way
though!

Thanks,
Caleb

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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

[Nick Devito]

On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 13:39 -0700, Aaron Kulbe wrote:
> On 8/22/06, Caleb Tennis <caleb@gentoo.org> wrote:
>         Hi all,
>         
>         Right now both the KDE and Ruby herds (which, informally, I am
>         the *lead*
>         on both) are hurting for people.  I don't have the time to
>         work on general
>         maintenance and bugs at the moment, so we need some
>         help.  I've sent out a 
>         request for help in the GWN a few weeks ago and got a lot of
>         good leads on
>         potential new devs, but unfortunately I don't have the time
>         right now to
>         mentor anyone either.
>         
>         If you're able to help in either one of these herds, it would
>         certainly be 
>         appreciated.  You don't need my permission or anything - just
>         add yourself
>         to the herd and throw a mail out to the alias saying you're
>         joining us.
>         
> 
> Caleb,
> 
> I'm going to add myself to the Ruby herd, if I can ever get infra- to
> get off their asses and put my keys back up on the servers.  I had a
> total data loss in the last couple weeks, and had to rebuild. 
> 
> question... gem is the "official" package manager for Ruby.  Why do we
> put Ruby stuff, other than the bare minimums to get Ruby running, in
> the portage tree?  Why not just let gem handle it?
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> Aaron Kulbe
> superlag@gentoo.org
Here's a (probably bad) idea, but, how about we do something like the
way g-cpan does things. It's just an idea, and, I really don't have a
clue as to how g-cpan actually works. *shrugs*
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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

[Doug Goldstein]

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Aaron Kulbe wrote:
> On 8/22/06, *Caleb Tennis* <caleb@gentoo.org <mailto:caleb@gentoo.org>>
> wrote:
> 
>     Hi all,
> 
>     Right now both the KDE and Ruby herds (which, informally, I am the
>     *lead*
>     on both) are hurting for people.  I don't have the time to work on
>     general
>     maintenance and bugs at the moment, so we need some help.  I've sent
>     out a
>     request for help in the GWN a few weeks ago and got a lot of good
>     leads on
>     potential new devs, but unfortunately I don't have the time right now to
>     mentor anyone either.
> 
>     If you're able to help in either one of these herds, it would
>     certainly be
>     appreciated.  You don't need my permission or anything - just add
>     yourself
>     to the herd and throw a mail out to the alias saying you're joining us.
> 
> 
> Caleb,
> 
> 
> question... gem is the "official" package manager for Ruby.  Why do we
> put Ruby stuff, other than the bare minimums to get Ruby running, in the
> portage tree?  Why not just let gem handle it?
> 

I favor this the same way I favor pear and pecl to handle those
extensions. But to each his own I guess... Aaron and I will have our own.


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http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/


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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

[Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò]

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On Friday 15 September 2006 00:28, Nick Devito wrote:
> Here's a (probably bad) idea, but, how about we do something like the
> way g-cpan does things. It's just an idea, and, I really don't have a
> clue as to how g-cpan actually works. *shrugs*
Actually, g-gem for gem-based packages is already being worked on by pclouds 
and 	Aggelos Orfanakos.

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Gentoo/Alt lead, Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, AMD64, Sound, PAM, KDE

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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

[Stuart Herbert]

On 9/14/06, Doug Goldstein <cardoe@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > Caleb,
> >
> >
> > question... gem is the "official" package manager for Ruby.  Why do we
> > put Ruby stuff, other than the bare minimums to get Ruby running, in the
> > portage tree?  Why not just let gem handle it?
> >
>
> I favor this the same way I favor pear and pecl to handle those
> extensions. But to each his own I guess... Aaron and I will have our own.

It makes sense to put gems into Portage if they are deps for other
packages, or (in the case of something like mongrel) if they're an
important package in of themselves.

If we had the man-power (which we don't), I'd favour having ebuilds
for as many gems as possible.  When you're managing servers, it's very
nice to be able to audit your server against what the package manager
says should be there :)

Best regards,
Stu
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