From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3241387FD for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 22:32:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 89A9BE0A44; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 22:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D779E0A03 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 22:31:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (unknown [77.109.139.87]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: hasufell) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E73AD33FD96 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 22:31:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <533749D2.3060504@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 22:31:46 +0000 From: hasufell Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Why is IUSE=hpn mandatory in openssh ? References: <53369B59.4000002@gmx.de> <5336AB42.2090007@yahoo.ca> <20140329201238.40d7cd56@gentoo.org> <5337463B.5050107@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <5337463B.5050107@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 17799730-8b4e-45dc-a571-6f6466d8492d X-Archives-Hash: fdb5a245c8d4537bba39961e240b2e9a -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Toralf Förster: > On 03/29/2014 08:12 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: >> On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 07:15:14 -0400 Alex Xu >> wrote: > >>> On 29/03/14 06:07 AM, Toralf Förster wrote: >>>> WRT to but 504616 I'd like to address my questions made in >>>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=504616#c6 to this >>>> list again : >>>> >>>> "Since the Debian debakel with "fixing" an uninitialized >>>> memeory I'm very skeptical to distribution specific >>>> corrections which are not included upstream. At least I'm >>>> wondering if the USE flag hpn should be enabled by the user >>>> explicitely - currently it is in IUSE already." >>> >>> 1. Please use a spelling checker. >>> >>> 2. IUSE doesn't mean what you think it means. >>> http://devmanual.gentoo.org/quickstart/#ebuild-with-use-flags > >> Toralf wants to indicate that it is implicitly enabled by >> default (by the '+' character); and thus, he would like to see it >> become disabled by default, such that the user can explicitly >> enable it. > > Yes - that's what I want. We have had those debates whether the "+" should follow upstream decisions and such. Short answer: the maintainer decides. There is no consistency for this and there will never be. > > At least an einfo should be added to the package IMO telling the > user that HPN is enabled by default. > No, that's not the right approach. There are tools you can use to check what flags are enabled. Use 'eix' and 'equery' for example. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJTN0nSXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQzMDlCNDQ4NjEyNDI4NjA5REVEMDI3MzIy MjBDRDFDNUJERUVEMDIwAAoJECIM0cW97tAg/IUP/0TXUmCfrzFupp1QIyVYbhR7 0bKE3b1/9BE40nCHPTbnLGUQs5kOa8PtINF9RkfZZuJ/yHwhdN6dCu5MqMIK2avv HfQVqVQ7bNpe3M+Ljkc/UScVLecgab7hmFk/R/OTDArsCw5Z4BIFmqDu2lYN62NW 0iWm7fV/tbPqb+f91fg2/DdTuRTptiVnjPd3n8RnxUEfzdHfLzFP4D893C4zY6vU NtGP1erM61pzbvcVBFoecbgtve6X/VkP7Ctp2QE+/zES6/xkVlwASuvNrjfMog+Y b5tis/R+LUrwz6ngmPiu/a1mlh4oB0gVMJZbCgk1YfDGVPNSrhg5opVoAyN9uAaF QOgPmgPP/9ntYw4G3pPznb3GDXXnrZrLMFXwDFTRia69qfPNBO/+DL1eB0t//E16 RAJbambJqmqKtSZZZCcxaG/3QQmWGrC1hbkIej7FGAORDsWG3cV7me2wIYm/AYeH VfdciY95SxbD0WsvZfn8gCi+t8us6JAOKo0j1INsMywZ5ui5khNBdkW7+vunjkd5 z2m57bWDek7zoNPY5LdUYB2NNVjpaVzKwaeP08xIMKW9eR+rn5+JFZrZ5mB7HY1H 4/MnRZLdpIzKE0WpmfrEyGAGLEkhCwxAVZAqWtwv+W4lH0CxdBuAqlT9m9ZPtdSD lk08Oa5adjHBXDCflCUx =GVHS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----