From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B143F1391DB for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 14:55:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F11DE0AE7; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 14:55:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-f45.google.com (mail-qg0-f45.google.com [209.85.192.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3BABE0A43 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 14:55:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id j5so16990996qga.4 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 07:55:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CHX1wocMtv9yiJvzQ8q//+oB8XsDQefAA5VWZIJXUyg=; b=kA8Yz0LTRrYrjVsb7p3eMCcBYp07VKaOj3mKbPhEFJfhEe90VAm6weHXG3FfUfm4Oj ApUR1v8Z6+mVeUX7pdtwF4KX3DLjx4mWNcmNRYFJ7CGehoV/fIA4bf9lIdb7U8SDRQK5 40xDGBv4NFJYZNE2jbdGFGISpp4AF9O2vuGvWm1YwvQpZLqH1zt8II+Rw41wxyYYWLvS +358HarheQHL+whimb1hV0BQTL+Yqb0ywwisehNfB0GTmj6WZ8u1WaOWtsDdpRCYVnoB PSKJgOcFXPbB5H46cpzxChsBDH6w6SCs5UzpTqO7OjpTwHtsRQF81kgPSjQ37C1fpnAq J5/A== X-Received: by 10.140.38.37 with SMTP id s34mr3008452qgs.88.1395672941057; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 07:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (modemcable176.215-176-173.mc.videotron.ca. [173.176.215.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z96sm21899905qge.10.2014.03.24.07.55.39 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 24 Mar 2014 07:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5330476A.6020806@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:55:38 -0400 From: Damien Levac User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC GLEP 1005: Package Tags References: <20140323154609.1625d525@marga.jer-c2.orkz.net> <20140324123619.5fca27ee@deathstar> <20140324152512.45516d0a@marga.jer-c2.orkz.net> In-Reply-To: <20140324152512.45516d0a@marga.jer-c2.orkz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: a6ed117e-f949-4bc8-a3c5-3ffe0138f6ee X-Archives-Hash: e393e1a8e95cfe8130198816a3840489 On 14-03-24 10:25 AM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 12:36:19 +0100 > Jan Matejka wrote: > >> Categories are essentially tags, only less powerful as they can >> express relationship of 1:N while tags are can express M:N > No, categories are essentially directories. > > I was asking about tags, not about categories. > > It appears it's very hard to answer the simple questions of why we need > tags and how we would use them. The answers should typically involve > some explanation of how you're going to use the things once you have > them. > > > jer > A lot of people already replied to this question: package search. A trivial example, a user want to know all terminals available in portage. Of course he could try a `emerge --searchdesc terminal`, but then he would get anything mentioning terminal in the description: which would probably include a lot of "terminal applications" which are not terminals themselves... `emerge --search terminal` just doesn't cut it as "konsole" wouldn't be a result but is a terminal emulator... On the other hand, terminals are spread through many categories (gnome-terminal in gnome-base & konsole in kde-base to name the most obvious example). Thus tags are a nice way for user to find the applications they want. Damien