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[89.208.21.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j1sm3258210lbl.10.2014.01.10.04.10.19 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 10 Jan 2014 04:10:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 16:10:18 +0400 From: Igor <lanthruster@gmail.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <52cfe32c.012a700a.1bc4.ffff91f2@mx.google.com> To: Chris Reffett <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage QOS In-Reply-To: <52CF0FD7.8010608@gentoo.org> References: <52ce4eab.463f700a.4b43.16bd@mx.google.com> <CAAr7Pr9a_BRZji8LTJb7rE53ASgyA4nP2ysVGkr+5m5JRjnYDw@mail.gmail.com> <52ce9994.24f5980a.0660.342e@mx.google.com> <pan$d20bf$750bc60b$823d720e$55b4506@cox.net> <52cf09c2.463f700a.4b43.58d7@mx.google.com> <52CF0FD7.8010608@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------06A0740B601471E43" X-Archives-Salt: e66a54bd-2d13-4d70-bfaa-4e15dd529b26 X-Archives-Hash: 22543dcb7879d7d593bb2a322ea39aca ------------06A0740B601471E43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Chris, Friday, January 10, 2014, 1:08:39 AM, you wrote: > Right here is the big problem: you're not looking at this from the > perspective of the average Gentoo developer. We don't care about market > share. We don't care whether we're on top for another few years. There > are several forks of Gentoo. I doubt most devs care about them. I > personally know that we're not going to compete with Debian, which has a > huge contributor, or Ubuntu or Red Hat, which have whole companies > behind them. You're selling this as if you're selling to a company which > wants to be on the top of the market and beating out competitors, and > that's not what we are. We are a source-based distro that requires some > effort from users, and people want that or they don't want it. >> What we need is a vote YES or NO. If you against it - vote NO. It's >> perfectly normal, if there would be no NO there would be no need voting. Thank you for you opinion.=20 The competition in open source world is much harder than with commercial software. 3 commercial systems share 96% of the users. 1,6% of the users are shared by 296 Linux distros You may think that you're outside this rules but the competition is natural= =20 on the planet and Gentoo is certainly competing weather you want it or not. Competition was long before a human foot stood on the ground for the first= =20 time :-) And suddenly there is no competition in Linux world - do you reall= y=20 belive in it? --=20 Best regards, Igor mailto:lanthruster@gmail.com ------------06A0740B601471E43 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head><title>Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage QOS</title> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1"> </head> <body> <span style=3D" font-family:'Courier New'; font-size: 10pt;">Hello Chris,<b= r> <br> Friday, January 10, 2014, 1:08:39 AM, you wrote:<br> <br> <span style=3D" font-size: 9pt; color: #800000;"><b>> Right here is the = big problem: you're not looking at this from the<br> > perspective of the average Gentoo developer. We don't care about marke= t<br> > share. We don't care whether we're on top for another few years. There= <br> > are several forks of Gentoo. I doubt most devs care about them. I<br> > personally know that we're not going to compete with Debian, which has= a<br> > huge contributor, or Ubuntu or Red Hat, which have whole companies<br> > behind them. You're selling this as if you're selling to a company whi= ch<br> > wants to be on the top of the market and beating out competitors, and<= br> > that's not what we are. We are a source-based distro that requires som= e<br> > effort from users, and people want that or they don't want it.<br> >> What we need is a vote YES or NO. If you against it - vote NO. It'= s<br> >> perfectly normal, if there would be no NO there would be no need v= oting.<br> <br> </b><span style=3D" font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;">Thank you for you opi= nion. <br> <br> The competition in open source world is much harder than with<br> commercial software. 3 commercial systems share 96% of the users.<br> <br> 1,6% of the users are shared by 296 Linux distros<br> <br> You may think that you're outside this rules but the competition is natural= <br> on the planet and Gentoo is certainly competing weather you want it or not.= <br> <br> Competition was long before a human foot stood on the ground for the first&= nbsp;<br> time :-) And suddenly there is no competition in Linux world - do you reall= y <br> belive in it?<br> <br> <br> <span style=3D" font-family:'arial'; font-size: 8pt; color: #c0c0c0;"><i>--= <br> Best regards,<br> Igor &= nbsp; </i></span></span></span></span><a style= =3D" font-family:'arial';" href=3D"mailto:lanthruster@gmail.com">mailto:lan= thruster@gmail.com</a></body></html> ------------06A0740B601471E43--