From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25300138247 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 12:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE55BE0B66; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 12:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-f51.google.com (mail-la0-f51.google.com [209.85.215.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F8E0E0B55 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 12:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f51.google.com with SMTP id ec20so3086840lab.24 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 04:10:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:reply-to:message-id:to:subject:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type; bh=lvbmoffMyrYzEwRFH4TaxhOjgUtboD5JrciBzcXbiDc=; b=bWOyB42G+S4b4rWLrGIMnRXlWDlGLRCqp1oA9FlipfPK3kFTvk44A4BoYoldm6xEjq eqxaKx9jOx4HjNiw2KIwnTmEIFWvTe1TQlGeF2VeLb2I/QbFwZ6nWvAgKZkaLxuuregW l/7loy4cMOCvkhCQDpt315Q0alo/lY+Nt+oYjEVh/+J6cqUlEpMSpB1ROMVmTyo2CVy/ JOuj8nZydo51IdQ0nUpGF9BkTiMUzasR9mzswAd0koeF0rTXiVwIB5JTslrLqJ0l90H1 ZcaBpk6rasdHAcFvSCm5qysJCDCJ/GrmRC8hn4JDHF+nclof3YoZEYIqbFt1zNC/47C0 ssEQ== X-Received: by 10.112.219.170 with SMTP id pp10mr3407251lbc.29.1389355821549; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 04:10:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.60.64] (office.healtech.ru. [89.208.21.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j1sm3258210lbl.10.2014.01.10.04.10.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 10 Jan 2014 04:10:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 16:10:18 +0400 From: Igor X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <52cfe32c.012a700a.1bc4.ffff91f2@mx.google.com> To: Chris Reffett Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage QOS In-Reply-To: <52CF0FD7.8010608@gentoo.org> References: <52ce4eab.463f700a.4b43.16bd@mx.google.com> <52ce9994.24f5980a.0660.342e@mx.google.com> <52cf09c2.463f700a.4b43.58d7@mx.google.com> <52CF0FD7.8010608@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------06A0740B601471E43" X-Archives-Salt: e66a54bd-2d13-4d70-bfaa-4e15dd529b26 X-Archives-Hash: 22543dcb7879d7d593bb2a322ea39aca ------------06A0740B601471E43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Chris, Friday, January 10, 2014, 1:08:39 AM, you wrote: > Right here is the big problem: you're not looking at this from the > perspective of the average Gentoo developer. We don't care about market > share. We don't care whether we're on top for another few years. There > are several forks of Gentoo. I doubt most devs care about them. I > personally know that we're not going to compete with Debian, which has a > huge contributor, or Ubuntu or Red Hat, which have whole companies > behind them. You're selling this as if you're selling to a company which > wants to be on the top of the market and beating out competitors, and > that's not what we are. We are a source-based distro that requires some > effort from users, and people want that or they don't want it. >> What we need is a vote YES or NO. If you against it - vote NO. It's >> perfectly normal, if there would be no NO there would be no need voting. Thank you for you opinion.=20 The competition in open source world is much harder than with commercial software. 3 commercial systems share 96% of the users. 1,6% of the users are shared by 296 Linux distros You may think that you're outside this rules but the competition is natural= =20 on the planet and Gentoo is certainly competing weather you want it or not. Competition was long before a human foot stood on the ground for the first= =20 time :-) And suddenly there is no competition in Linux world - do you reall= y=20 belive in it? --=20 Best regards, Igor mailto:lanthruster@gmail.com ------------06A0740B601471E43 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage QOS Hello Chris,
Friday, January 10, 2014, 1:08:39 AM, you wrote:

> Right here is the = big problem: you're not looking at this from the
> perspective of the average Gentoo developer. We don't care about marke= t
> share. We don't care whether we're on top for another few years. There=
> are several forks of Gentoo. I doubt most devs care about them. I
> personally know that we're not going to compete with Debian, which has= a
> huge contributor, or Ubuntu or Red Hat, which have whole companies
> behind them. You're selling this as if you're selling to a company whi= ch
> wants to be on the top of the market and beating out competitors, and<= br> > that's not what we are. We are a source-based distro that requires som= e
> effort from users, and people want that or they don't want it.
>> What we need is a vote YES or NO. If you against it - vote NO. It'= s
>> perfectly normal, if there would be no NO there would be no need v= oting.

Thank you for you opi= nion. 

The competition in open source world is much harder than with
commercial software. 3 commercial systems share 96% of the users.

1,6% of the users are shared by 296 Linux distros

You may think that you're outside this rules but the competition is natural=  
on the planet and Gentoo is certainly competing weather you want it or not.=

Competition was long before a human foot stood on the ground for the first&= nbsp;
time :-) And suddenly there is no competition in Linux world - do you reall= y 
belive in it?


--=  
Best regards,
 Igor                   &= nbsp;        mailto:lan= thruster@gmail.com ------------06A0740B601471E43--