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From: Igor <lanthruster@gmail.com>
To: Jeroen Roovers <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage QOS
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 20:37:46 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52ced05c.aa78980a.7a02.48ba@mx.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140109165542.54b4da61@marga.jer-c2.orkz.net>

Hello Jeroen,

Thursday, January 9, 2014, 7:55:42 PM, you wrote:

I was expecting you a few hours earlier, Jeroen. I knew you
wouldn't resist a terrible temptation remembering the Python Bug
that I filed from the old kernel gentoo.

For your information this is a confirmed bug in Python right now and
it is going to be fixed in 3.5

http://bugs.python.org/issue20065

Jeroen, tell me how many users world wide do not prefer to upgrade Gentoo
on automated basis? There are important servers, and there are many
cases when after upgrade server stops. Do you remember that recent udev
change? And there are many similar cases. Imagine that your server
is running a reactor. So what would you prefer to keep it running the
reactor as it did flawlessly for 8 years or launch an upgrade taking
the risks to blast yourself?

Many be it's not only me, but somebody else who is thinking the same?
Are you sure that the majority of Gentoo users are indulged in
paranoid automated upgrade and then spending time fixing damage
that upgrade did?

Do you have a car? Why you don't change EVERY detail in your car on a new
version on daily basis automatically?

Why don't you change car as soon as a new version is released? Why not
changing the new mouse, new keyboard, new monitor, new supply daily as
soon as there is a new version?

Not to mention that you can change daily appearances.

I belive that each users has the right to decide how to use Gentoo.
I have my reasons not to upgrade some servers.

And you, being a support team has no right to mock on your users
weather they're right or not. You don't make users feel bad, you
help them. One mocked user, another and there is no users to mock
about.

And you need users to mock more than they need you.

>> >> For various reasons many techs were not implemented and now Gentoo
>> >> is in a 
>> > kind of stagnation.
>> 
>> > What do you mean by that in particular? 
>> 
>> Gentoo stopped.

> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=298754
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=439378
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455908
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=495002

> It looks like the only thing that is stagnating is your Gentoo Linux
> install.





-- 
Best regards,
 Igor                            mailto:lanthruster@gmail.com



  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-09 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-09  7:24 [gentoo-dev] Portage QOS LTHR
2014-01-09  8:12 ` Alec Warner
2014-01-09 12:44   ` Igor
2014-01-09 14:12     ` Christopher Schwan
2014-01-09 15:26       ` Igor
2014-01-09 15:55         ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-01-09 16:37           ` Igor [this message]
2014-01-10  0:27             ` heroxbd
2014-01-10 12:41               ` Igor
2014-01-10 13:51                 ` Rich Freeman
2014-01-10  0:16         ` heroxbd
2014-01-10  0:31           ` Patrick Lauer
2014-01-10  1:19             ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-10  1:52               ` Patrick McLean
2014-01-10  2:40                 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-10  6:17                 ` Brian Dolbec
2014-01-10 18:14                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-01-10  7:54             ` heroxbd
2014-01-10 18:11             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-01-11  3:57               ` Patrick Lauer
2014-01-10  1:02           ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-10  9:10             ` heroxbd
2014-01-10 14:54               ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-10 12:23           ` Igor
2014-01-10 12:30             ` René Neumann
2014-01-10 12:30           ` Igor
2014-01-10 12:39             ` Patrick Lauer
2014-01-10 13:05               ` Igor
2014-01-10 13:18                 ` René Neumann
2014-01-10 18:19                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-01-10 19:06                     ` René Neumann
2014-01-10 14:05                 ` heroxbd
2014-01-12 10:47                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2014-01-10 13:10               ` [gentoo-dev] " Igor
2014-01-10 14:02                 ` Rich Freeman
2014-01-10 15:16                   ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-10 18:12           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-01-09 15:49     ` Ben Kohler
2014-01-09 16:11       ` Igor
2014-01-09 17:59     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2014-01-09 20:42       ` Igor
2014-01-09 21:08         ` Chris Reffett
2014-01-10 12:10           ` Igor
2014-01-10 12:26             ` René Neumann
2014-01-10 12:52               ` Igor
2014-01-10 12:57                 ` René Neumann
2014-01-10 15:39                 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-10 16:36             ` Mike Frysinger
2014-01-10 18:17             ` Greg KH
2014-01-10 19:38           ` Duncan
2014-01-10 22:36             ` heroxbd
2014-01-11  1:28               ` Duncan
2014-01-09 19:35 ` [gentoo-dev] " yac
2014-01-11 15:00 ` Naohiro Aota
2014-01-12 10:28   ` Igor
2014-01-12 19:31   ` Igor
2014-01-12 19:31   ` Igor

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