From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ACE9138247 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 06:20:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44B3CE0A99; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 06:20:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F909E09EC for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 06:20:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [91.220.220.251] (pinkbyte.micronet-rostov.ru [91.220.220.251]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: pinkbyte) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2DAE033F7AD for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 06:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <52D77A35.8080509@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:20:37 +0400 From: Sergey Popov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20131113 Thunderbird/17.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy References: <20140114213719.GA2684@laptop.home> <20140115004928.1fae6bf9@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <52D673A4.2080508@gentoo.org> <20140115180405.1cd06453@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> In-Reply-To: <20140115180405.1cd06453@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="s9XTOOAHFS1Bd6IMU4vwT6FAg1Bg7IjFF" X-Archives-Salt: 254f8f1e-c6ef-4ec3-bc7e-e29b36d8f082 X-Archives-Hash: 925bcf51fca9824cd3a5316175a649ea This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --s9XTOOAHFS1Bd6IMU4vwT6FAg1Bg7IjFF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 15.01.2014 21:04, Tom Wijsman =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 15:40:20 +0400 > Sergey Popov wrote: >=20 >> As i said earlier for similar proposals - the one option that i see >> here to make all things going better - to recruit more people in arch >> teams/arch testers. Other options lead us to nowhere, when stable >> will be eliminated or transformed into fake. >=20 > If eventually our existing approach yields no or worsening results, it > would leads us nowhere as well; we can pick that option a few times, > but if it doesn't improve anything we'll need to start reconsidering. >=20 It can not go to no result, unless we have no breakages in stable, stable REMAINS stable. If it contains old, but working software - then it is stable. As i said earlier, problem begins when we NEED to stabilize something to prevent breakages and arch teams are slow. --=20 Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead --s9XTOOAHFS1Bd6IMU4vwT6FAg1Bg7IjFF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJS13o2AAoJECo/aRed9267WJoH/0ohTuzCC4PmaqREwOa3KYO1 c77VT5bpaJRdIQJRnUVp0Jl+pAhh/QQwi28qBSawQbFy9Zcn6FnpZNdPHAgcDcUk fLHhYrB3aiEoajTQfRmyJzh87hXBSLQa6vNO3HGXI7gbP4itM02mz6k+j2btgtxc i6XUkeVmPC6G4c/K9z+bCGrHbJ7S5+LjQd1bsbdmnFu5TjiCUarnSB0NsIBcxf5r U3xmih6KG9Fswok3P2FXpKjeG0co8iJ097hK7/Ko7DjIPz8+/52Zg5pIDy4i7JBj axipmdMOwpXdzKmixhmEWjB47WrQyQEwT1ZyQUOM5ALVtcJKsTgRhZtLetcoRWw= =r209 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --s9XTOOAHFS1Bd6IMU4vwT6FAg1Bg7IjFF--