From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2A0138247 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:27:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF7B6E0A4A; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:27:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.plaimi.net (107.4.189.109.customer.cdi.no [109.189.4.107]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A97D2E09E5 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:27:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.plaimi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C5B9540E02 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:27:44 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=plaimi.net; s=leet; t=1389616064; bh=7QF3jyW63pMiB13RPBg95OwbpAQdC9dudp3hM54/6b8=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fP1dLIXSxwD32eid8Vkw+k9PgnlPSP9kZFGXoTf4Oe3cD5xKEKwG+SkRgZDpDM6RV dy9ixCV0KN9II4pmZ2wZwinU15WeSJ9iUv3tcsJ5n1LWcAre50O/M5rv0tcgI1XvPp HMWoL/tLdoY4VTBrgpYvcHGCyF0wFd8lVU9/XG4c= Message-ID: <52D3DBDD.6030205@plaimi.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:28:13 +0100 From: Alexander Berntsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [OT] pkgcore bikeshed References: <1388986435.17870.49.camel@big_daddy.dol-sen.ca> <1389582464.7103.185.camel@big_daddy.dol-sen.ca> <20140113083917.5427344.53422.41690@pathscale.com> <52D3A71F.9040602@plaimi.net> <52D3AEB9.7080500@pathscale.com> <20140113110210.GA1993@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20140113110210.GA1993@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: c25af629-0da7-4cbc-8069-ae3477adb15d X-Archives-Hash: 54f7af1da03b714620cec06d0ab65b91 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 13/01/14 12:02, Steven J. Long wrote: > Yeah but it already outshines under the hood: all you're talking > about is EAPI and radhermit is working on it; I'm sure he and > dol-sen would be happy for more help as well, so long as it's > supportive. ISTR TomWij is involved too. I know all this. But until the EAPI is brought up to date, I don't see a lot of devs migrating their work there. (Kudos to radhermit for his work.) Furthermore, bringing the EAPI up to date is not of ignorable complexity. > Updating both in parallel isn't hard: once pkgcore is up to EAPI-5, > EAPI-6 isn't that much work (mostly bash afair.) If it is trivial: show us the code. > At that point, put portage into feature-freeze, and only bugfix it. > Call a hiatus on new EAPIs for 6 months and put all effort into > making damn sure pkgcore is a drop-in replacement. I don't see this happening as it stands right now. Let's revisit this when pkgcore is more up to date. > There's certainly enough devs to do that, and definitely enough > interest in finally moving to portage-NG. These are two big statements, and I'm not convinced either of them holds true. Feel free to gather data on the latter. (The former is not immediately quantifiable.) - -- Alexander alexander@plaimi.net http://plaimi.net/~alexander -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlLT290ACgkQRtClrXBQc7XeuAD+Jj4Oj73br8pvcKdkDSVFfE3J tG6ajS3wzQHNmkbxWPoA+gMVyzgm5SSDRAjqHysocgvvDe6Xwa2CA+/ON98u+2xs =mBxD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----